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Xeno-x, the way the court system works is, anyone can sue someone else
for anything, any time he or she so pleases. There are no restraints.
However, if a judge deems a suit to be frivilous or without merit (and most of the suits filed end up falling under those categories), it is thrown out of court.
And due to the fact that priests and other religious leaders are public figures, any one who chooses to do so can publicly criticize them, or even launch unfounded allegations against them, without being exposed to any kind of liability or penalties.
In other words, priests, preachers, rabbis, imams, etc. are in the same league as such individuals as politicians, professional athletes, entertainment celebrities and TV news anchors.
For example, if someone wrote a piece espousing that the "majority of black pro-basketball players are barely literate," and a group of those blacks came together and filed a suit against that person for defamation or something like that, more than likely, the case would be thrown out of court. The judge would probably rule that even though what the person wrote was inflammatory and insulting to a considerable numer of people, it did not cause that group to suffer any huge and lasting damages.
And thus, the case would be deemed to have insufficient merit to be heard by the court.
posted by
Feenix
on August 3, 2005 at 11:26 AM
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what you'd get sued for
is calling priests homosexuals, which is what you are doing.
you are saying that priests of a Christian denomination that itself condemns homosexuality are not pedophiles; they are homosexuals.
you are pretty well lumping all priests in the same stereotype.
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 3, 2005 at 10:52 AM
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Ariel70,
You missed "asshole"!
posted by
Glennb
on August 3, 2005 at 5:15 AM
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kooka
Incidentally, is there a left black man? And if so, where was he left? In left luggage? On the left wing of politics? the football field? It's a bit like " Disarm today, dat arm tomorrow", isn't it?
So many questions, so little time!
posted by
ariel70
on August 2, 2005 at 4:54 PM
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kooka
You've got it all wrong! See, our mighty warrior is really an insignificant fifteen year-old white geek, who's ... well, shall we say a bit AC/DC?
He's got an evil squint, his knuckles drag on the floor, he's got halitosis ; which is why he doesn't get out in the fresh air as much as he ought to, and why the gals don't get naked, or faint when he passes them by, And his taste in ties! Oh, wow! Got 'em from Eisenhower's garage sale, see?
Or ... hmm, I wonder? Is he perhaps an alien life-form, sent specially to sow the seeds - no, let's be clear about this - to tend the plants that have already come to flower among us blogniks. Venom, hatred, discord, bigotry, Locusts, blains ( whatever the hell they are ); murrain of cattle ( ditto ) ; death of the first-born, you name it.
My own view is that he in fact the missing fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse, which incidentally, ( for for the benefit of those who who are about to make plans for their holidays ), my calendar tells me is due in about a month. I guess that's pretty accurate, 'cos it's marked down as being after the local String Bean Fiesta ( which follows closely on the Apricot, Peach, Olive, and fifteen saints' fiestas ) and we'll all be apocolyptically sloshed.
Hey ho! it takes all sorts, doesn't it?
posted by
ariel70
on August 2, 2005 at 4:51 PM
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Kooka, maaabeee I am gay, & all this shit I'm posting is just a ruse to
throw everybody off. Ya never know, right?
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 4:34 PM
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Wow
Yet another great sign of your ignorance and hatred. I am starting to wonder if maybe you are not actually gay and this is your self hatred that you are trying to claim openly gay people suffer from.
Are you saying it is all right for a grown man to go after a ten year old girl then? Sorry, but that is just not right. I myself have no desire for prepubescent girls.
Sorry, but pedophile is not at all the same thing as homosexuality. It is documented that men who molest boys are not at all interested in grown men and very often like women as well. After all a young boy's body is actually very feminine. Go and do some real resource before you spit out something so ignorant and hate filled. You really are showing yourself to be clueless on all of this.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 2, 2005 at 4:19 PM
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Reni, I know. I forgot to hose down my high rubber boots before I came
inside from the cattle pasture.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 1:16 PM
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Ariel70, there are a great many adults who are unable, or who do have the
skills, to defend themselves. But on the other hand, most adults, as well as most children, know how to, and possess the tools, to defend themselves.
That has always been the case; ever since the beginning of time. And if such had not always been the case, the human race would have become extinct a very long time ago.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 1:14 PM
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MHW--I knew I smelled something funny...
posted by
Renigade
on August 2, 2005 at 1:11 PM
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Reni, Bull Shit is my middle name. In fact, my outstanding ability to
spread a whole lot of bull shit earns me some real big bucks and high degrees of respect from others.
I'm an artist ... a bull-shit artist.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 1:10 PM
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MHW--Don't forget eating chips. We've been eating chips, too--
on the couch while we watch CNN and have everything else spoon-fed to us as well. How DO you do it? Well, I'd chat, but I have to run. I'm reading a great book. It's called How to Avoid Stepping in Bullshit. I highly recommend it. Or perhaps you have the first volume? It's entitled, How to Spread Bullshit Everywhere While Keeping Your Own Feet Clean. Really good reads. Really. ;-)
posted by
Renigade
on August 2, 2005 at 1:02 PM
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warrior
Here we go again! This is so depressing. So, let me get this straight ; the logic of your argument is that, because most children know how tolook after themselves, there can't be any that don't.
ergo, no child abuse. Right?
posted by
ariel70
on August 2, 2005 at 1:02 PM
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gomedome, you should not attempt to compare your background and ex-
periences with mine. For one thing, you did not grow up in a big wicked city like Los Angeles, but I did.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 1:01 PM
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Reni, that's right, my system did get overloaded and short circuit some-
where along the line. And the reason why that happened is I have been out there, for many years, carrying far more than my share of the load.
In other words, while many others were just sitting around and reading books, attending classes, watching TV, and having a good time, I was out in the world trying to make a difference. And that has taken a toll on me.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 12:57 PM
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mightyholywarrior -- and if you do say so yourself
In this posting you must be sparing us that elevated insight. I've not had the experience of criminal seduction attempts that you chronicle in this posting. As a matter of fact the only time I can remember an adult making an attempt to seduce me was when I was around 12 years old and it was a catholic priest. Only by luck of circumstance did I avoid any contact that might have scarred me emotionally. I was completely oblivious to what was going on at the time, such was the nature of the unwarranted trust placed in representatives of the church. I only put it together years afterwards when the man was convicted pothumiously of a number of child molestations. You can describe this man any way you please, "sick bastard" comes to mind as do any number of derogatory terms but there is no one else on this planet, other than those who have committed the same attrocities who deserve to be categorized and depicted in the same light. To do so is more than a slight to anyone erroneously painted with the same brush, it trivializes the anguish of the victims themselves but more importantly, the level of betrayal perpetrated by these people and their organization.
posted by
gomedome
on August 2, 2005 at 12:53 PM
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Ariel, the vast majority of children are NOT defenseless. Most of them know
how to protect themselves, and how to avoid, people who are out to harm them.
And if that were not the case, there would be far more crimes against children than there are.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 12:53 PM
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MHW--You know everything, huh? Well then that explains it. Your
system has obviously overloaded and short-circuited somewhere...
posted by
Renigade
on August 2, 2005 at 12:52 PM
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Xeno-x, it's a good thing you didn't go into the field of law. What would
I get sued for? For writing a piece in which I pointed out that healthy homosexual males are randy creatures who will get it on with just about any "fully-blossomed" male they can get their hands on.
Think about this, my friend. Are not most healthy heterosexual males "randy creatures," too?
In other words, the average heterosexual male will get it on with just about any "fully-blossomed" female he can get his hands on.
The only thing that keeps most heterosexual males, as well as most homosexual males, from having sex with minors are such personal qualities as a strong sense of decency, sound values, having the ability to discern between right and wrong, and a high degree of self-restraint.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 12:48 PM
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warrior
Yes, I would! Actions have no bearing whatsoever on age. In an identical fashion, in your post you tangle two totally differrent things together : neither of which has any bearing on the other.
What the media wrote and showed was had no bearing at all on the guilt or inocence of the accused, who were, despite what you think, guilty as hell. They had been abusing defenceless children for decades : this with the connivance of their superiors
To confuse the two issues is to become an accomplice in what they did, and it is precisely because people are cynical about media hype that the truth is often buried : with calamitous effects on the victims. it is they that we should comfort and heal ; not their abusers.
posted by
ariel70
on August 2, 2005 at 12:40 PM
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Vane, you're damned straight I got issues. And you ain't seen nuthin' yet.
I am as crazy as hell. I'm a wild man.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 12:36 PM
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i` would call him an animal never mind child MHW
posted by
mcbreeze
on August 2, 2005 at 12:34 PM
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Ariel70, what if a woman you know got beaten, raped and impregnated by
a 6-foot-tall, 200 lb. 14 year old. Would you go around telling others that the woman got beaten, raped and impregnated by a
CHILD?
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 12:32 PM
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gomedome, the truth is, I do have a greater ability, than most other human
beings, to discern the true nature of things.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 12:27 PM
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Reni, when I was 13 years old, I was a man, and that is because when I was
just a little boy, my mama taught me how to act like a grown up.
And that is the reason why I never got manipulated, abused or exploited by any of the freaks and perverts who were always lurking around my community.
One of the big problems today is that a lot of parents are not raising their sons and daughters to be "cowboys" and "cowgirls." They are raising them to be ... well, er ... children. And that is one of the primary reasons why there are so many irresponsible adults walking around today (e.g. "deadbeat dads," women who abandon their children, females who discard their newborn babies in garbage containers, males who get females pregnant and simply walk away, etc.).
And finally, do not ever tell me to avoid talking about what I do not know anything about.
For one thing, I know damned near everything, and I'm not bragging. I'm just telling the truth.
As a matter of fact, I have so much knowledge stored in my head that I have forgotten more than what most people will learn in their entire lifetimes.
posted by
Feenix
on August 2, 2005 at 12:21 PM
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warrior
Sorry, that should have read right black man. my apologies
posted by
ariel70
on August 2, 2005 at 11:21 AM
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warrior
I have homosexual friends, who are as horrified and appalled as I am a these so-called ' paedophiles'. By using this euphemism, we are accomplices in their revolting activities, which scar their victims for life. They are not paedophiles : they are child preadtors, and we should call them that. " Paedophilia" means love of children. What sick love tortures, rapes, murders, or otherwise destroys the lives of the innocent?
Media hype aside, it is sad that one who purports to be a compassionate and rational being should condone the acivities of such beasts ; for that is truly what you do by being in a state of denial. There are none so blind as those who will not see
posted by
ariel70
on August 2, 2005 at 11:19 AM
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you have issues dude.
posted by
Vanidad
on August 2, 2005 at 10:59 AM
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I wouild say
that a lot of Blacks would disagree that you are "the RIGHT Black Man"
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 2, 2005 at 8:48 AM
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I AGREE WITH GOMEDOME -- YOU HAVE VASTLY MISREPRESENTED
What you say, if it wre to bepublished in a major newspaper, could very well be the target of a libel suit.
for what you are saying is that all homosexuals want to pick up prepubescent and/or pubescent young men
and nothing can be further from the truth.
and I would dare say that the priests involved are actually heterosexual by nature and not homosexual.
at the same time, you are disparaging the priesthood, saying that those who enter the orders are homosexually inclined.
your reasoning is grossly faulty -- resembles a sieve, if you know what I mean.
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 2, 2005 at 8:45 AM
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BTW--Checked out the site. What a good looking dude!
posted by
Renigade
on August 2, 2005 at 8:37 AM
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MHW--A thirteen yr old boy is a CHILD. Excuse me, but I worked with
CHILDREN who were the victims of sexual abuse for over two years. While they may physically be the same level of a man (in sexual performance), they are at a great disadvantage to those (such as,yes, PEDOPHILES) who attempt to lure them into acts that they would not normally participate in. I won't argue that the media has created a frenzy on this topic (and others), but to insinuate that a 45 yr-old-man who has sex with a 13 yr-old boy using manipulation and fear is not a pedophile is just plain wrong and irresponsible. Stick to what you know, because this ain't it...
posted by
Renigade
on August 2, 2005 at 7:04 AM
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TWISTED...
but interesting.
posted by
homegirl
on August 2, 2005 at 6:55 AM
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mightyholywarrior -- this posting is even more unbelievable than your last
rant against gays. Take 2 seconds to extend your own logic and you will see that by your definition, pedophiles do not exist. They are simply gays insidiously working under the cover of political correctness and the entire world is too stupid to see this but you.......does this sound humorous to you yet?
posted by
gomedome
on August 2, 2005 at 6:13 AM
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pedophile priests...
are the biggest criminals...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 2, 2005 at 4:36 AM
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