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Hammock
Whose cake was it? You sure were gone a long time....it's been really different around here without your witticisms and wisdom. 

posted by Krisles on August 4, 2005 at 10:16 AM | link to this | reply

I once had 4 pieces of a really good Chocolate Cake,
but I didn't Eat the Whole thing.

posted by Hammock_Noweilz on August 4, 2005 at 4:38 AM | link to this | reply

Offbeat
Me, either, Sweet Tea....I know that if Husband knew it would break his heart..but, also, he would probably rather be taken care of like he has been...and I couldn't have stayed if I hadn't had the outlet. Thanks for your sweet words and heart. I gather you're feeling better. I'll come over to your blog or wherever you gals are hangin' and check on ya.

posted by Krisles on August 3, 2005 at 8:41 PM | link to this | reply

Kris
I have heard every story in the book about this subject. To me, it is a personal choice, be it right or wrong. Cheating is a concious decision, it happens. I have know marriages that are actually stronger because of a cheating spouse. I don't claim to understand that, but to each his own. I have been on both sides of the fence with this...I don't regret my decisions..

posted by Offy on August 3, 2005 at 8:27 PM | link to this | reply

I hear you. I've had to re-think a couple of "I would never do that" or "I'm too smart for that" statements.  

posted by Holy_Grail on August 3, 2005 at 8:25 PM | link to this | reply

HolyGrail
You hit the nail on the head with that one!  And, just when we think we have ourselves all figured out, values set...are definite about what we will and won't do - you'll have to trust me on this because I have quite a few years on you - something comes along and upsets the applecart.  Life is an everchanging rollercoaster of challenges and we balance on a unicycle, riding along with our limited skills...and a lot of faith...most of us trying to do the best and right thing. Thanks for reading.

posted by Krisles on August 3, 2005 at 8:20 PM | link to this | reply

Krisles
"It is so easy to say to just get a divorce if you are unhappy…but some actually have feelings of commitment, duty and concerns for the children…and struggle to meet those commitments while fighting their own desires for happiness.  None of this makes it right…it’s just the way it is…and most of us don’t always do the things we know are the right things to do, especially when we are unhappy…..we still try to find ways to eat our cake and keep it, too."  Boy, that resonated very strongly with me.  The human being is a very stupid, but at the same time, very complex animal.  

posted by Holy_Grail on August 3, 2005 at 8:11 PM | link to this | reply

Tim
This Ashley Madison is a site to behold...it is for when "monogomy becomes monotonous" and caters specifically to marrieds...it had, of late, changed it's pitch to really try to get single guys in there because of all the married women.  The original idea was marrieds who wanted to meet other marrieds specifically because they did not want to mess of their marriages...just wanted something on the side.  I believe it also a place where those who want to arrange threesomes, find kinky stuff, etc. do so.  I have my membership on hold so I don't go in there anymore, or receive notices when someone is interested in me..but I get notices when new guys in my area sign up....I get at least two per day in the 100 mi radius.

posted by Krisles on August 3, 2005 at 8:07 PM | link to this | reply

hopelessLoser
Thank you so much, my sweet hopeless not a loser at all.  I have to come check out what you have been up to with your ladies...dare I?

posted by Krisles on August 3, 2005 at 8:03 PM | link to this | reply

aamie
Good advice and you sound like someone who has been there.  I'm not dallying at the current time, did for 17yrs with one and we had a perfect understanding on that score. I have a husband I haven't decided I want to divorce, don't know that I ever will even though that would probably be the best thing to do for me. Frankly, other than the fact that I could never stand to be the cause of breaking up someone else's marriage, I would almost welcome the incentive to move me off of dead center...I know that is sick, but so is this place I've been stuck for so many, many years.

posted by Krisles on August 3, 2005 at 8:02 PM | link to this | reply

Krisles

It must be a sign of the times when you can get online and find a cheating spouse to cheat with. Maybe they think that if both are cheating it gives some type of comfort. Yes, if I were to have cheated, it would have been for something other than sex.

I have no respect for a man that would knowingly pursue a woman that he knew to be married.

posted by TIMMYTALES on August 3, 2005 at 3:02 PM | link to this | reply

Nice job!

posted by SomeoneElse on August 3, 2005 at 2:39 PM | link to this | reply

Sooner or later ...

Dallying with married men is a dangerous game; sooner or later you will meet one you want to keep. Enjoy what comes, prepare to be hurt.

posted by aamie on August 3, 2005 at 4:56 AM | link to this | reply

Krisles
I wasn't offended by any means. I DO believe sometimes. . , things just happen. ., whether you want them to or not. But, I ALSO believe there are many men out there who truly love their spouses and wouldn't DARE do anything to hurt them.

posted by Joe_Love on August 2, 2005 at 8:53 PM | link to this | reply

Joe_Love
I just put in an addendum to my post...see if it reads better to you now.

posted by Krisles on August 2, 2005 at 8:41 PM | link to this | reply

Joe_Love
Then I have made a grave error in my writing....please forgive me, because I do not think that at all; fwmystic says that and I totally disagree with that.  My dad was a faithful man and I know lots of men I believe are faithful. I belonged to a site that was for married people who want to  cheat so they were the men I was talking to here. No, no....I do not believe that at all. Unfortunately, I have plenty of women friends who do believe that.  I think a lot of men man fantasize, but think it through and weigh the consequences and would never jeopardize what they have.  And I think plenty don't even have to think it through.

posted by Krisles on August 2, 2005 at 8:35 PM | link to this | reply

Krisles
You make it sound like every man in the daggone world cheats on his spouse. Personally, I think the percentage would be much lower than you think.

That being said, thought provoking blog.

posted by Joe_Love on August 2, 2005 at 7:06 PM | link to this | reply

Hey Girl!

Big Surprise! Episode 17 is ready.

posted by Passionflower on August 2, 2005 at 5:12 PM | link to this | reply

Usual
You know you don't need to bite your tongue with me...I just sent you my email..use it.

posted by Krisles on August 2, 2005 at 3:17 PM | link to this | reply

Trying to bite my tongue...
but I just can't.  I'd like to ask your advice on some things pertaining to this offline. I'll email you. 

posted by UsualSuspect on August 2, 2005 at 1:05 PM | link to this | reply

avant-garde
Thank you for reading and I agree with you....many men consider consequences, and I'm sure many may never even feel the desire to stray.  It would seem some need to think all make the same choices they do  but that simply is not true.  I know it for a fact. I think that men's capacity to love is limitless - just maybe confused sometimes, especially in their younger years with hormonal issues. 

posted by Krisles on August 1, 2005 at 7:16 PM | link to this | reply

fwmystic
Thank you for reading....I left  my comment for you and forgot to put your name. I said that I can't agree that all men do actually cheat.  I believe there are different personalities and characters in men, just as there are in women.  I can't look into their minds, but choices are made that aren't all the same.

posted by Krisles on August 1, 2005 at 7:11 PM | link to this | reply

Thank you for reading.  I can't say that I agree that all do...I think there are many different kinds of men, just as there are many different kinds of women - choices are made, etc.

posted by Krisles on August 1, 2005 at 7:08 PM | link to this | reply

ARGUS
Thank you....I especially appreciate that coming from a man, of course.  It really has been such a learning experience...still odd to say, a positive one given the circumstances.

posted by Krisles on August 1, 2005 at 7:05 PM | link to this | reply

RachelAnna
Thank you, and I'm so glad you got something out of it. I sure have learned a lot...and will keep my eyes and mind more open from now on.  There is no reason for them to look elsewhere, if they can communicate their needs at home and really be heard -just like we want.

posted by Krisles on August 1, 2005 at 6:58 PM | link to this | reply

hold on a minute.
some of us do think about things, and consequences. anyway, i enjoyed reading your post, krisles. i do believe that under these tough exteriors, the men who cheat really need to feel loved. after all, they act so unloving most of the time. it's ironic that the thing they want is right under their noses.

posted by avant-garde on August 1, 2005 at 1:48 PM | link to this | reply

All men cheat ... it's in our nature

posted by fwmystic on August 1, 2005 at 9:40 AM | link to this | reply

Very perceptive, Krisles---- and good analysis.

posted by ARGUS on August 1, 2005 at 9:24 AM | link to this | reply

Wow, some awesome insights...

You know, after being married for five years I hadn't thought about the fact that some men do probably cheat because they need romantic and emotional fulfillment.  That's pretty freaking ignorant of me, but hey, you learn something new every day.

Great post.

posted by RachelAnna on August 1, 2005 at 6:44 AM | link to this | reply

Straightforward
Thanks for reading. It is the way I see it, about myself and what I see with those I've experienced.  I try to be honest with myself...of course, we all deceive ourselves to a degree but I try not to be a hypocrite. I would gather from your name, that you do the same.

posted by Krisles on July 31, 2005 at 10:51 PM | link to this | reply

Seems like a pretty honest and upfront post

posted by Straightforward on July 31, 2005 at 8:59 PM | link to this | reply

i admire your loyalty
and respect for others.x

posted by mcbreeze on July 31, 2005 at 3:11 PM | link to this | reply

mcbreeze
Thank you for the kind words.  I wasn't sure whether to post this because I know many on this site have been hurt by cheating spouses and my heart goes out to them. That's one of the reasons I haven't posted a picture and have shielded much of my real identity, not wanting to hurt  my husband. I love him dearly in so many ways.  Relationships are so complicated, so many kinds of love. I so appreciate your reading.

posted by Krisles on July 31, 2005 at 3:06 PM | link to this | reply

very well said krisles
i found this post inspiring and interesting and was able to relate also due to my mum having an affair a long time ago, i love the way you use your detail and clarify what sometimes can be such a confusing picture. Great Work .xx

posted by mcbreeze on July 31, 2005 at 2:58 PM | link to this | reply

Medusa
Thank you for reading with an open mind. I do try not to deceive myself or be a hypocrite. I certainly don't deserve any respect for the affairs, even if just online. I do believe I am a caretaker and friend, just trying to find a way to stay in that role and have some sort of happiness, too - my husband depends on me financially and emotionally and my heart breaks at the thought of abandoning him because that is how I view it in my mind.  I hope to resolve it in the next year

posted by Krisles on July 31, 2005 at 2:44 PM | link to this | reply

Passion
Couseling you, dearest....as well as many conversations I have recently had with one of these men about it all. Yell at you? I never yell at you....do I?

posted by Krisles on July 31, 2005 at 2:38 PM | link to this | reply

scriber
I know you do....and I bet you have had every variety, shape and flavor known to mankind and womankind! I read you for lessons. Thanks for reading me....and reading me.

posted by Krisles on July 31, 2005 at 2:35 PM | link to this | reply

Mama.Dragonfly
Thank you! I've read your posts about your marriage and experiences online...know you understand.  Nothing is black and white...don't well know it. Thanks so for reading.

posted by Krisles on July 31, 2005 at 2:34 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Krisles....Yes, mighty thoughtful and mighty honest....
How could I not respect a gal like you? Good post!

posted by MedusaNextDoor on July 31, 2005 at 2:17 PM | link to this | reply

Kris....Well, aren't we being thoughtful today?
What brought on all these revelations about love, life and men? ([please don't yell at me if this is something I'm already supposed to know)

posted by Passionflower on July 31, 2005 at 1:46 PM | link to this | reply

love the cake.

posted by scriber on July 31, 2005 at 1:44 PM | link to this | reply

Hey Kris!  So well said!!  Bravo!!  It is so very easy to sit back in judgement until you been there, and hurtin', all alone.

~Mama.Dragonfly487

posted by Mama.Dragonfly on July 31, 2005 at 1:42 PM | link to this | reply