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Well, no doubt about the
Dems having big boss politics and enforcing Jim Crow laws in the South. That's why when the Democratic Party decided it had to go in a better direction, all the Eastlands, Thurmonds and the lesser known ones who were just as powerful, became Republicans and the "Southern Strategy" was born--but first Strom had to run as a "Dixiecrat"--and you, a black man, now connect yourself with all this shit? I think you must be just playing with people's heads--but then I can't believe Clarence Thomas either. Oh, well... Hemlocker
posted by
Hemlocker
on July 30, 2005 at 10:32 PM
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Hemlocker, actually the conspiracy began in the early 1900s when large
numbers of Marxist and Marxist-oriented Germans and eastern Europeans began pouring into the US. And the kind of conspiracy I am talk about here, of course, is a "vast left-wing conspiracy."
And check it out: Long before Goldwater came along, it was Democrats who did such things as enforce the Jim Crow laws of the Old South, stand in the entrance ways of all-white high schools and universities to keep blacks out, and murder civil-rights workers in places like Philadelphia, Mississippi.
And then there were the northeastern Democrats which included a group of America-hating communists called the "Central Park West Gang" in New York City -- and were there such other northeastern Democrats as Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, the married couple that handed the Soviets the secret to the atomic bomb.
posted by
Feenix
on July 29, 2005 at 10:39 AM
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Mighty
I'm not New Age either. I lifted that quotation from another blog.
Shouldn't have done that. Just wanted you to know, as one of your favorite people, Bill Clinton, would say: "Ah feel your pain." Hemlocker
posted by
Hemlocker
on July 29, 2005 at 10:26 AM
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Hemlocker, sorry but I'm not "New Age." So I can't relate to your message.
posted by
Feenix
on July 29, 2005 at 10:23 AM
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mighty
Of course you are right about many things. If only most Americans really knew the whole chilling history of lynching and how it was woven into the fabric of acceptable culture. I wasn't referring to just being "crude", but demeaning and being disrespectful of other people, women especially, including black women. As for Hillary, she's a pretty good politician. I like her but she's not my hero. No-one is. I don't call it a conspiracy, but it is a conscious strategy based in history of the last 40+ years. It pretty much started after Senator Goldwater's big defeat in 1964. You must know that. Hemlocker
posted by
Hemlocker
on July 29, 2005 at 10:22 AM
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mighty
" your definition of yourself, greatly influences your behavoir"
"compassion is the ability to put yourself in the other person's shoes"
"pain is only triggered by another person when there is already pain within you"
"wisdom is the ability to know when to act and when not to"
taken from: Personal Power Through Awareness by Sanaya Roman
posted by
Hemlocker
on July 29, 2005 at 10:13 AM
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Hemlocker, because of the barbaric treatment that blacks have been forced
to endure throughout the history of this nation (e.g. slavery, lynchings, being required to sit in the rear, denied the means to make livings for themselves, etc.), it is a wonder that a great many blacks are not even more crude and anti-social than they already are.
When it comes to the unacceptable behavior that a number blacks exhibit, whites are the ones who ignited that fire, and now they are standing back declaring, "Oh, what a shame that is."
posted by
Feenix
on July 29, 2005 at 9:25 AM
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Hemlocker, what about when Hillary, a liberal, warned the nation that a
"vast right-wing conspiracy" is underway?
Let us not have a situation of the pot calling the kettle black.
posted by
Feenix
on July 29, 2005 at 9:12 AM
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mightholy
I've read some of your comments here, as well as those of others. So being black is normal but homosexuals are freaks, sick and deviant. What about black homosexuals, of which there are many? I also like the comments about males of any race exploiting of and disrespecting women--"Fuck those hos and bitches!" Anyone, especially from a group (minority in this country though certainly not in the world) whose members have suffered from hatred and discrimination, and can refer to others with hatred and discrimination, has much growing up to do. I'll see you in your next life. I hope it will be a happier one for you. Hemlocker
posted by
Hemlocker
on July 29, 2005 at 9:10 AM
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mightyholy
I don't think the gay struggle should be compared to the black struggle except as they have non-acceptance and pain in common. What I find curious is the way "right thinkers" are so afraid and contemptuous of "liberals!" I don't think I've ever seen, nor would I start a post, an essay, article or whatever with "Conservatives!" It is kind of infantile, don't you think. Hemlocker
posted by
Hemlocker
on July 29, 2005 at 9:03 AM
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hmm...
What a racey topic: blacks, browns, homosexuals. Now all we're missing is feminine activists saying you (white, brown, black, green, purple, and blue) men are using women as sexual objects to sell whatever product it is you aim to sell. So whether the women is a homosexual, or a mother of three, that doesn't stop men from plucking her off the street, stripping her to some lacy underwear, and parading her in a beer comercial, or a rap video.
You can can talk about the nature of the opression, the degredation, and dehumanization from physical angles, but i find that the ideological aspect causes more harm than brute force.
With brute force, the public become aware of their position as the subordinates, and therefore can rally against it. On the otherhand, with subtle brainwashing, the public wouldn't even realise what hit them.
posted by
Nuttimilius
on July 29, 2005 at 1:19 AM
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ERM...
what's the difference between being black and brown?
posted by
homegirl
on July 28, 2005 at 9:53 PM
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MHW - welcome back my right wing comrade ...
Forgive me, but I'm tired about hearing about the black struggle and how blacks seem to have laid claim to being THE minority in the US. I'm more interested in the brown struggle. We are a much greater percentage of the population, especially in the Southern states. So, in a sense I agree with you. Don't compare the gay to the black, but don't tell me about black oppression and discrimination because I want to talk about the brown always being put down.
posted by
fwmystic
on July 28, 2005 at 2:22 PM
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Reni, errr yeah. I'm still makin' 'em tremble. The big difference today is
all of that trembling takes place behind the closed doors of their boudoirs.
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 12:03 PM
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Mighty,
That's probably the word I'd use too...lol...because really, it is not natural...men and women are the natural way...
posted by
SincerityAnna
on July 28, 2005 at 11:58 AM
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SincerityAnna, ure rite. My shrink said I should say they're "unnatural";
not "sick and abnormal."
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 11:56 AM
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mighty--Now we all tremble...but for different reasons, of course. lol
posted by
Renigade
on July 28, 2005 at 11:53 AM
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Gomedome, Gomedome, BIIIIIG HUG, Buddy!
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 11:51 AM
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Mighty,
I'm not so sure that it's being sick and abnormal...it's just how they are. It is normal to them. It is what they know. To say that it is sick and abnormal is an opinion based on your perception...and it's kinda mean too...if you don't like what you see look the other stinkin' way...
posted by
SincerityAnna
on July 28, 2005 at 11:51 AM
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Reni, all I know is way back when I was a teenager, little old white ladies
would start trembling as soon as they noticed me walking towards them.
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 11:50 AM
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mightyholywarrior -- waddya mean used to? I'm having a bit of fun with you
because I know you can take it as well as you dish it out. I also haven't lost sight of the fact that your posting is shooting up in the rankings as it always does when you put in an effort.
posted by
gomedome
on July 28, 2005 at 11:49 AM
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Gomedome...
I'm sorry...but that was funny...in crayon...very creative...
posted by
SincerityAnna
on July 28, 2005 at 11:48 AM
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I have to agree overall. Afterall, it's much easier to spot a black man
walking down the street than a gay one. Unless the latter is flaming, that is...
posted by
Renigade
on July 28, 2005 at 11:45 AM
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Gomedome, doncha remember? You and I have always been pals.
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 11:44 AM
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mightyholywarrior -- I'll try writing my comments in crayon from now on
posted by
gomedome
on July 28, 2005 at 11:42 AM
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Gomedome, I will say it slowly: B-e-i-n-g b-l-a-c-k i-s n-o-r-m-a-l --
b-e-i-n-g h-o-m-o-s-e-x-u-a-l i-s b-e-i-n-g s-i-c-k a-n-d a-b-n-o-r-m-a-l.
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 11:25 AM
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mightyholywarrior -- I'm glad you didn't mention my name or my recent
posting in this blog. I draw very real and distinct parallels but have to agree that the two issues cannot be compared in their entirety or "exactly" as you state. The simularities are found not in looking at the the two societal movements side by side but in comparing the respective thought processes of those within society that were not part of either affected group. Those who had influence on the outcomes and had to make decisions of conscience concerning that outcome. That is the parrallel, comparing those within the groups affected by the respective movements is meaningless, in that we are in agreement but I am not certain you understand why we agree on this.
posted by
gomedome
on July 28, 2005 at 11:19 AM
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Homegirl, the great irony is being black is even more normal that being
white, due to the fact that the size of the black population of the world far exceeds that of whites.
Therefore, blacks should not ever be compared with a "minority", especially one that is comprised by a bunch of freaks and deviants.
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 11:10 AM
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I do despise that comparison!
posted by
homegirl
on July 28, 2005 at 11:02 AM
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Right On, Madame P.O.! You know what time it is.
posted by
Feenix
on July 28, 2005 at 10:23 AM
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Yeah, I know!
I hate when they do that!
posted by
Mademoiselle
on July 28, 2005 at 10:18 AM
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