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posted by
A-and-B
on July 28, 2005 at 7:33 PM
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Yep, I think so too.
I agree totally with your comments. As a matter of fact I made most of those comments myself four days ago in a conversation. I have not read the comments made here. I may not. There are people who have no redeeming qualities. The sex offenders are one of those groups. Someone once made the observation that a country that will not first protect its children is in its decline and will not be long on this earth.
The horrors committed cancel any 'human rights' the bleeding hearts want to cry about. Stop wasting tears on creeps. Spend them on the children.
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posted by
do_one_thing
on July 18, 2005 at 3:03 PM
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Quirky...
Your comment does not suprise me, I will do my best to answer it. Yes, if my son or my brother were convicted of a sex crime, not just flashing but the kind of crime that earns the level III label, I would not protest to their being put to death for that crime. I love them, but my sense of right and wrong, my sense of duty to society at large, and my compassion for future innocent victims would dictate my opinion.
Here is my logic; the ONLY way to insure that these people do not re-offend is for them to not exist. These crimes to me are far worse than murder. A murderer kills their victim, their family grieves, and life goes on. Just because somebody murdered somebody in a fit of rage or passion does not mean he is likely to re-offend. The victim of a sex crime however bears the burden of that crime for as long as they live...in the case of child victims it can screw them up so bad that they themselves become offenders when they grow up and a cycle is created...which means more victims.
To your question about burglers...I think it is a silly comparison. Yes, burlary is a terrible crime, you felt violated, even raped in a way...I understand that. I do not think a comparison can be made to what the victim of a sex crime goes through though. I don't think that victims of burlary go on to become burglarers themselves, I don't think the majority of burglarers have a mental defect that compels them. I think most thieves are either desperate to survive or are too lazy to get a regular job...I don't think it is a sickness.
Your assumption that I "hate" these offenders is incorrect. I don't hate them. On the contrary I feel great compassion for them, the same type of compassion I would feel for a wounded animal. What torture they must endure...knowing that their vile actions are wrong and being unable to stop. I would not wish that hell on anyone. I am sure many of them have contemplated suicide because they know that is the only way they can be sure they will not re-offend.
You sound as though being dead is a bad thing...there are many things worse than dying, not living well is one of those things. We may be viewing this from different viewpoints...I do not see death as an end, rather I see it as a new beginning. Maybe you see death as the end of everything? That would explain your point of view.
Whatever the case, this topic has risen to my consciousness lately because of so many news stories about dead or violated children, victimized at the hand of a released sex offender. It still doesn't make sense to me. My question to you is this; What solution do you offer? What remedy do you prescribe to protect the most vulnerable and innocent among us? I am eager to hear your answer, really...if there is a better alternative I want to know about it.
It was not my intent to offend you. In the final analysis I doubt our feelings are that different on the subject, just different in the way we articulate it, and the methods we would use to resolve it. I hope we can continue to talk about it. Your comment was appreciated.
posted by
A_Norseman
on July 5, 2005 at 12:57 AM
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Your post surprises me. I would never have thought that someone with a heart so loving and caring as yours, could harbor such hatred for fellow human beings. Yes, like it or not, they ARE fellow human beings. They may have committed atrocious crimes against others, but they are still human beings, and if they are truly “sick” then they deserve your compassion.
I must have missed the “proof” that there is no effective rehabilitation for these people…can you point me to this information?? Even if that were true, to right their wrongs by killing them is more vile and insane than THEY are. And why stop with sex offenders? Why not kill all the burglars, too? When burglars came into my home and stole everything of value I felt emotionally raped…so where do you draw the line? Furthermore, how do you know that the people who have labeled them Level Three have not made a mistake with their label? You think it doesn’t happen…I have proof that it does.
And if your son were a sex offender…would it please you to kill him as well?? How would that make you feel, or his mother, or his grandmother?? Does he also deserve to die for being mentally ill?? Would you like to pull the trigger yourself then?
posted by
Julia.
on July 4, 2005 at 5:38 PM
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I've always felt exactly this same way.
Sex offenders, people who harm children in ANY way should be shot. Bullets are just too cheap.
I like your land-mines analogy. It works well here.
posted by
Passionflower
on July 3, 2005 at 4:57 PM
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You won't believe this but--
I was just thinking about you.
posted by
Passionflower
on July 3, 2005 at 4:55 PM
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