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Krisles
Ready when you are.
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Limey
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July 1, 2005
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Limey
I just saw the salsa comment...now that one, I don't know myself but am dying to learn...let's do lessons together...I have great rhythm and years of dance experience so I'm sure I'll get it in no time at all..
posted by
Krisles
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June 30, 2005
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krisles
Well, I'd really like to salsa. Would you teach me?
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Limey
Your choice, sir.....
posted by
Krisles
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June 30, 2005
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Krisles
Do you waltz?
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Thank you Limey. Have to go myself. Until next time. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
I'm not saying that you are wrong. I just disagree with you.
The names you present are impressive, but yet there is no real evidence; it's a list of people who happen to think a certain way for whatever reasons they think that way. What evidence do they have to back up their opinions? As a general rule I find the administrators of academies are more politicians than experts in the field in which the institution works.
Everything you presented here has been the credentials of people who believe as you do. I need the actual evidence, not a list of the names of people who have concluded a certain way on it. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Sassyass
I don't think they do. These are the figures:
· The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (the New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).
· The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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JJ
My last comment crossed with yours.
Climate change apart, I was interested to learn you study astronomy. Over here, a good deal has been made of sun-spots and their possible link with global warming.
I've enjoyed our exchange. Best wishes until the next time.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Its not only foreigners that hate 20% of Americans
Most of us only tolerate the idiots taking up space. I can believe most of your statistics as I am sure you researched it to the fullest. However, I am sure that other countries compare to us relatively closely, percentage wise, when it comes to being uneducated.
posted by
sassyass_64
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
Sounds like Bush is setting himself up to take credit for what the Universe does. Maybe the Bible Bangers will say he has the power of God. Maybe he'll believe them, and get a gold leaved robe and a great oak shepherd's stick (a PopeSuit) and go forth with the word. I don't much give a damn what anyone does. I can't control them, and have no desire to try. I'm just watchin' the river flow.
There is one thing I've learned: mankind isn't half the Big Badass he thinks he is. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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JJ
This is from the BBC (28/6/05). Good enough for you?
World scientists urge CO2 action
The science academies of the world's leading nations have urged their governments to take prompt action to combat possible climate change.
They have agreed that all countries could and should take cost-effective action to cut carbon dioxide emissions.
The statement was released on Wednesday by the academies of the G8 nations, including the UK's Royal Society and the US National Academy of Sciences.
It was signed by scientists from 11 countries, including China and India.
The academies are making their voices heard ahead of July's G8 meeting in Scotland, where the British Prime Minister has promised to put climate change high on the agenda.
Uncertainty issue
Their statement read: "It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities.
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action.
"Action taken now to reduce significantly the build-up of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere will lessen the magnitude and rate of climate change."
Lord May, the current President of the UK's Royal Society, added: "It is clear that world leaders, including the G8, can no longer use uncertainty about aspects of climate change as an excuse for not taking urgent action to cut greenhouse gas emissions."
He called US policy "misguided" and noted that crucial to the international acceptance of the statement was the fact that leading scientists from three of the world's biggest developing world emitters China, India and Brazil had also signed it.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
Well, at least we have narrowed the focus of our disagreement. The terms ''Leading Scientists'' and ''Insurers'' don't impress me much. Not after a guy with stringy, disheveled hair, a goofy face, and a bushy moustache crawls out of the bookshelves with the Theory of Relativity.
I think we've said everything that can be said. Personally, I'm waiting to see what Winter brings. For all I care about Bush, he can go spank children with bibles. Although I don't think his most vehement, loudspoken opponents show much familiarity with rationality. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
Just one final point. Climatologists are not experts in the field of Astronomy. Sources that I used in my own research were quite accidentally encountered in a search for timetables of the solstice event of June 21. While doing that I encountered the sunspot information and explored that further, finding the information innocuously tucked away on multiple sites. It is all under the classification of Astronomy, a science of which I am sure few Climatologists are very familiar.
I have spent a good deal of time in the sciences and am very aware of scientific methodology. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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JJ
Global warming is man made - by carbon emissions. That's what the world's leading scientists are saying, and that's what the insurers believe.
Even George Bush himself now admits that 'some' warming is man made: he's starting to move, just watch him!
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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limey
I won't take issue with any of your statements but the first: Global warming is man made. I totally disagree with you on that. Every argument that you bring up subsequent to that is contingent upon that assumption.
Insurers are basing all of their arguents on the weather. They believe that man caused global warming is the problem. I will agree that global warming is the cause of the problems that they point out, but I do not agree that it is man caused.
Man is a rather self-important creature, but to the Universe, even the planet, he is nothing more than an unruly anthill. He has no power to control global warming one way or another. Scientific sources have recently stated that global warming is diminishing. I'm sure it is. As I said, we are nearly to the bottom of a sunspot cycle. Wait a year, maybe only six months. We shall see. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
I believe the scientists too. That was the entire point of my comment. All of the information that I obtained was obtained from scientific sources of information. Insurers are not interested in scientific accuracy, they are interested in what is the most profitable to them. With the ''act of God'' exclusion on nearly all insurance policies, why would they even care? It's simply people trying to support their own emotionally dictated reason with psuedo-facts.
JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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JJ - warming is man ma
When insurers start to count the cost and point out that global warming is man made, I must believe the scientists - not George W. Bush and his cronies.
This is from the BBC:
The worldwide cost of major storms will rise by two-thirds unless governments start taking immediate action to reduce global warming, a report has warned.
The average annual global clean-up cost will rise to £15bn ($27bn) by 2080 without such efforts, the Association of British Insurers (ABI) said.
It said these costs could be reduced with more effort to cut emissions of carbon and improved coastal defences.
The ABI also called for more weather-resilient buildings.
It said its Financial Risks of Climate Change report was based upon international scientific research from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Flood management
Without extra efforts to cut global warning, the ABI said the cost of insured damage in a severe hurricane season in the US could rise by three-quarters to £82m.
The cost of Japanese typhoons could also increase by three-quarters to £19bn per annum, while the cost of flooding across Europe would hit £82m a year, the ABI said.
It added that if governments successfully reduce carbon emissions, the size of insurers' capital requirements for hurricane, typhoon and windstorms could be cut by more than £33bn.
Effective flood management in the UK could save 80% of the costs of flood damage, while better building design could "significantly" reduce windstorm damage, the group said.
"Governments now have a chance to make rational choices for the future, before it is too late," said ABI director of general insurance Nick Starling.
"Making the right decisions based on first class assessment of the financial costs of climate change will ensure lower costs for the public in future."
The ABI is the trade association for the UK insurance industry.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Limey
I poured my heartfelt intentions out to you...please go read them......I didn't mean to step on your toes...I'm really pretty good at followin' when a gentleman leads......
posted by
Krisles
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
I was doing research on sunspots earlier this evening and found a number of quotations that mentioned the cyclic nature of sunspot activity. There was one note concerning a period of almost total inactivity, around the 1600's I believe. Simultaneously there was what was referred to as a minor Ice Age on the planet.
The cyclic rise and fall of sunspot activity has been taking place for as long as the Solar System has been in existence. Planetary temperature fluctuations have followed, although in a cycle that would be delayed, a little out of phase. The planet doesn't heat or cool quickly.
The year 2005 is almost to a low point in sunspot activity. Planetary cooling is certain to follow along. From about 1999 through about 2004 sunspot activity was at an all time high. I even found a news article about this in a British newspaper.
Do we have global warming? Most definitely. We just passed through a particularly high level of sunspot activity. Will global warming be resolved? We shall see. The sunspot cycle is almost to a low point. It is my opinion that global warming is going to turn around. Soon we will be fretting about global cooling. Will that, too, be the fault of the President of the U.S.? Probably so, unless he happens to be a Democrat. Then it will be the fault of the last Republican administration, who left the problem to them.
The biggest problem that the American public has is buck passing, if you know the term. Of course, in the buck passing arena, it seems that the Limeys, too, are Lulus.
Somehow I recall you saying something blaming Bush and the U.S. for Global warming. That got me started on this outrageously long comment. Sorry. 
JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Krisles
I have a bone to pick with you: see your last post.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Limey
It's a post in one of my blogs...written just to you...you special man, you...a first ever!
posted by
Krisles
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June 30, 2005
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JJ
Good. Glenn puts forward interesting thougts.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Krisles
An invitation to a dance? It must have got lost in the post. I'll make enquiries.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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JJ
We've heard this sort of argument in relation to global warming. Virtually all the world's most eminent climatologists accept that the planet is heating up rapidly. However, the opinions of about a dozen little-known scientists are being used to cause doubt - to the benefit of George W. Bush, who is deliberately stalling.
A reasonable conclusion can always be drawn from overwhelming evidence and statistics.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
I don't like to think of my communications with GlennB as a feud. I rib him a little bit because I think that his focus on particular subjects is too limited. I have, however, had a couple of enlightening exchanges with him. He may not think highly of me, but I rather like him.
JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Limey
Sweetpea - that particular remark was aimed at Glennb's silly remark below mine...had me biting my finger! Now, I sent you an invitation to dance...a whole post...haven't you seen it? Or are you ignoring me?
posted by
Krisles
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June 30, 2005
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Limey,
I forgot to read the post before I made my comment below. Well, in any event, you got full credit. I have now read it. My previous comment was on the comments, which was not invalidated by not having read the post.
I don't find conclusions based on statistics shocking or even surprising. Statistics are always abused to support the views of the user abusing them. On a questionnaire of 100 items, the collector of statistics may use no more than three or four of the items in ''drawing'' a conclusion that they wish to support. No proper conclusion on statistics can be done without a full knowledge of the statistical study, and an analysis by an unbiased party. I find it most efficacious to ignore statistics that have been summarized for me. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Krisles
I like your imagery. But i can't quite work out whether I'm cast in the role of of marksman or target.
PS People have been disenchanted with America since long before George W.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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JJ
I think I must be at the centre of a little feud? Thrash it out here if you wish.
Thanks for the kind words.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Glennb
Thanks. By 'responsibility'I assume you believe this is code for 'making life more difficult for them'?
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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kimgmi
Why do think that? We're not exactly enslaved over here.
PS Why do Americans put a # before ranking numbers as in #1, #2? We don't.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Hemlocker
You imply that Americans are clever for deceiving the world. Hardly.
Remember this?
You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time,
but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
It was spoken by your own Abraham Lincoln. Now there was a clever man. If only modern-day Americans had the same sense - particularly your pathetic president George W. Bush.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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No, no, no, Limey--
GlennB didn't say anything about Cosby. If he did, I didn't see it. I read his comment to see how many words it took for him to bring up whitey's racism, but he went onto his other topic, Prez Bush. Oh well. I had a 50/50 chance of being 100% right. I missed and only got 75% right.
Good post. I always enjoy a good bicker. JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
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June 30, 2005
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Medusa
I'm afraid I'm no expert on this type of writing. As you might know, I've only been at it a short time and can hardly work the technology.
However, for what it's worth, I believe people like to read items that interest and entertain them, and have a bearing on their lives.
That's it, really - except sometimes you hit the nail on the head, but more often you don't.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Limey, Bill Cosby is stumping for responsibiility among minority parents.
posted by
kingmi
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June 30, 2005
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Dylan
And you'd probably start to see how stupid you're being!
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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GlennB
Forgive me - but why the remark about Cosby? I think I must be missing something.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Jane
How interesting - we have the same situation here. Only last week the BBC ran a story about the increase in home schooling. And I personally know children who have excelled because of this method and would, almost certainly, have been ruined - or intimidated - at a state school.
Education Otherwise is - or used to be - the governing body.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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Put it this way, I was trying to avoid being offered a wee dram of your dreadful Jack Daniel's.
Yes, of course I was pulling your beautiful leg: I'll take any opportunity.
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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David
And yet Americans put the first man on the moon! What does that tell us?
posted by
Limey
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June 30, 2005
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So, Limey,
if Americans are so stupid and ignorant, how did they "deceive the world," as you say, about the Iraq War? Hemlocker
posted by
Hemlocker
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June 29, 2005
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Yes, Krisles.Limey is a challenge to us. We want him, because he ignores us
He is a naughty bloke and intelligent and he's fun to try and seduce, if you will.
posted by
MedusaNextDoor
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June 29, 2005
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Medusa!!
I issued a dance invitation to him, you want to rub avocado on him....is it true...do women really like the bad boys?????
posted by
Krisles
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June 29, 2005
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Limey
Peeking in at your blog is like watching one of those shooting galleries at a county fair...the one with all the characters popping up to be aimed at ....it is just such a giggle when viewed at like that....sorry, my imagination runs away with me...I know you are so trying to stay serious in here...but, really....all this happened just since Bush took office....now that one made me bite my trigger finger....ouch!!!!
posted by
Krisles
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June 29, 2005
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Limey: Dylan Valente spoke so eloquently. Now can I rub some mashed
avocadoes all over you.....I'm trying to seduce you into reading my posts. haha.once in a while you do, and I thank you for it. I respect you because you maintain your very high popularity. Mine keeps slipping away. I am baffled. Any advice? I'm serious...
posted by
MedusaNextDoor
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June 29, 2005
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Maybe our collective mediocrity is good...
just imagine how powerful we'd be if we had all the money and weapons we do AND the sharpest brains on the planet!
posted by
Dylan24
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June 29, 2005
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Limey,
The numbers do not tell the whole story! Sadly Americans are not required to do much thinking outside of their own little world. But do not blame us? Blame Bush! September 11, 2001, was not the surprise most people are encouraged to embrace. And so what! It will all end someday anyway!
Bill Cosby is also a jackass!
posted by
Glennb
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June 29, 2005
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Limey, #1 in freedom...
posted by
kingmi
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June 29, 2005
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Yeah, those stats are frightening
and I'm sure they are true. That's what America gets for letting the very misguided, very liberal NEA guide the public schools. Their mantra is "oh, those poor babies, we don't want to hurt their feelings by giving them a bad grade, so we'll pass them to the next class. . . in spite of their poor grades." Some few public schools are awarding teachers based on merit, i.e. how well their students are doing scholastically and of course the NEA and teachers' union is up in arms over that. How very threatening!
My sister home schools her six kids. They are receiving a phenomenal classical education. Amazing! She sets very high standards for them, and they are excelling in their work. What a novel idea.
We have only ourselves to blame for our depressingly low world rank and overall statistics.
posted by
JanesOpinion
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June 29, 2005
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Limey, is this another American term you aren't familiar, or are you
"pulling my leg?"
posted by
Ariala
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June 29, 2005
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I find that totally unbelieveable!!
"....Twenty per cent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth....."
Maybe you aren't the only one who hates Americans. I know I hate twenty percent of them......or being stupid! 
posted by
David1Spirit
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June 29, 2005
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Wonder
How kind? What's it to be - a cap or one with a tassle?
posted by
Limey
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June 29, 2005
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Limey, hating Americans is keeping you up at night again? Do you
need a little night cap with Ariala?
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Ariala
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June 29, 2005
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