Go to WHO IS GOD?
- Add a comment
- Go to (No subject)
one more (i think)
Eden was east of where the author resided.
so Eden's whereabouts? -- depends upon the whereabouts of the author.
plants, etc. -- who knows.
as you can see from the website in the previous comment, it might be possible for apples to grow in the region.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 30, 2005 at 9:46 AM
| link to this | reply
another website
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Environment/flora2.html
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 30, 2005 at 9:44 AM
| link to this | reply
here:
from this website
http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/a/apple044.html#his
---History---The Apple is a fruit of the temperate zones and only reaches perfection in their cooler regions. It is a fruit of long descent and in the Swiss lake-dwellings small apples have been found, completely charred but still showing the seed-valves and the grain of the flesh. It exists in its wild state in most countries of Europe and also in the region of the Caucasus: in Norway, it is found in the lowlands as far north as Drontheim.
The Crab-tree or Wild Apple (Pyrus malus), is native to Britain and is the wild ancestor of all the cultivated varieties of apple trees. It was the stock on which were grafted choice varieties when brought from Europe, mostly from France. Apples of some sort were abundant before the Norman Conquest and were probably introduced into Britain by the Romans. Twenty-two varieties were mentioned by Pliny: there are now about 2,000 kinds cultivated. In the Old Saxon manuscripts there are numerous mentions of apples and cider. Bartholomeus Anglicus, whose Encyclopedia was one of the earliest printed books containing botanical information (being printed at Cologne about 1470), gives a chapter on the Apple. He says:
'Malus the Appyll tree is a tree yt bereth apples and is a grete tree in itself. . . it is more short than other trees of the wood wyth knottes and rinelyd Rynde. And makyth shadowe wythe thicke bowes and branches: and fayr with dyurs blossomes, and floures of swetnesse and Iykynge: with goode fruyte and noble. And is gracious in syght and in taste and vertuous in medecyne . . . some beryth sourysh fruyte and harde, and some ryght soure and some ryght swete, with a good savoure and mery
Apples didn't (still don't) thrive in the warmer climates. Oranges do instead. Oranges were the "golden apples" of Greek Mythology (I think Hercules had a quest for the "golden apples"), so, besides fig trees, in the area, you'd probably find oranges somewhere. next -- flora and fauna of the middle east.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 30, 2005 at 9:40 AM
| link to this | reply
re: climate
the land was rich and fertile at one time
human activity depleted it
the first case of clear cutting in human history.
the land once was rich with varied animals and plants -- a veritable garden of eden
human civilization, urbanization, activities just like we have going on now -- remember the "cedars of Lebanon"? -- no more.
look up on the net regarding apples, their origins, where they grew.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 30, 2005 at 6:05 AM
| link to this | reply
all you h ave to do is read the passage
it's the "fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". Doesn't specify the exact fruit. someone later decided it was an apple.
I read an article in Bible Review -- check out the web page: http://www.bib-arch.org/ -- they have articles regarding that -- very informative as far as many questions that you have are concerned.
also I've posted regarding this -- do a browse or search regarding Adam and Eve and see if my thoughts can be of some help. Everyone has ideas concerning this.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 29, 2005 at 9:34 AM
| link to this | reply
i think the story is more figurative than literal
and intimates at man's descent into duality and time. he chose to 'eat the fruit' and thus experienced separation from God.
posted by
avant-garde
on June 28, 2005 at 5:10 PM
| link to this | reply
metta
That is a very interesting story
posted by
michael_pilarte
on June 28, 2005 at 1:02 PM
| link to this | reply
I was speaking to a friend who told me that in the original language the bible was written in that it wasn't really an apple - I can't remember what fruit it was - I doubt there is any proving the validity of the story of Adam and Eve... but on that note, I read a really interesting story that made more sense than that story regarding Adam and Eve this morning.... seems that Iblis (the Devil) came to Eve and asked her to watch over his son why he did something and she agreed - Adam came home and found Eve watching the Devil's son and he became very angry and killed the child and cut him into pieces and hung them from branches of a tree... and then Adam left to do something - Iblis came back and asked where his son was and Eve told him what happened and he called to his son and all his pieces came back together and he ran to his father. Iblis, after much sweet-talking talked Eve into watching his son again and went off. When Adam returned he became enraged to find the child there again, beat Eve, killed the boy, cut him up and burnt him, scattering the ashes and left again. Iblis returned and asked where his son was, Eve explained what had happened and again Iblis called to his son and his body came back together and he ran to his father. A third time Iblis asked Eve to watch his son and she said, "Adam will surely kill me if I do that." but, again, after much sweet talking Eve relented and watched the boy. Adam again returned to find the child. When Iblis returned and asked where his son was Eve explained to him that Adam had again killed the child, cooked him, ate half of the boy and that he made her eat the other half of the child. Iblis was pleased saying, "This is exactly what I wanted to happen. Now you have me inside of you."
posted by
Metta
on June 28, 2005 at 11:01 AM
| link to this | reply
God
You may want to consult the person who wrote "Johnny Appleseed", as I believe the same folks wrote both stories. Good luck with your search.
posted by
McGarnagle
on June 28, 2005 at 10:41 AM
| link to this | reply