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Yes it has..
And I must say, you're a worthy opponent. The best to you mate.
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Let's bury the hatchet - in you head. No, sorry - joke! Quits it is.
Take care old Yankee: it's been fun.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Limey
Let's call it a draw. We both have strong arguing points and neither of us will prevail..so, let's be mates again.
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Medusa
Keep out of it: go and play with your snakes.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Oh dear, do get you facts straight.
Britain held off the Nazis for two full years while you people dithered on the sidelines. Without Britian you might well have been speaking German.
As for the rest of it - if you want to go so far back you must see it all becomes America's history as much as Britain's!
As it happens, I agree with you - England made a real hash of 1066 and all that.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Limey, let's go at it..
You can dish it out, but let's see if you can take it. Okay?
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Argentina lays claims to the Falkland Islands. But she doesn't have international law on her side, I'm afraid.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Not so..
Argentina claims that the Malvinas are sovereign Argentinian territory and should be vacated by the British and turned back to the rightful party. How can you argue against that when Argentina is half a world away and just wants what it believes is justice! The same for Northern Ireland. Get the hell out!!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Limey: I love both you and Burly, but Burly is RIGHT ON, here....
Burly hit it right on the nail with your sorry asses. Ouch...
posted by
MedusaNextDoor
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June 22, 2005
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Limey
My point is.. who the hell are you, of all people, to lecture use on foreign policy. Yours has always been a disaster. It goes back to Harold's defeat at Hastings in 1066. Your leaders have been lechers like Henry VIII. You'd have lost World War II if the U.S. hadn't entered the war. You like to think that Churchill lured us in but we knew what we were doing, and you didn't! We saved your sorry British asses and you have absolutely no appreciation. You disgust me!!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Again, in international law the Falkland Islands are UK territory.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Northern Ireland is recognised as part of the United Kingdom in international law.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Perhaps this defintion helps:
United Kingdom or United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (Commonly called Great Britain or Britain.) (Abbr. UK)
A country of western Europe comprising England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. Beginning with the kingdom of England, it was created by three acts of union: with Wales (1536), Scotland (1707), and Ireland (1800). At the height of its power in the 19th century it ruled an empire that spanned the globe. London is the capital and the largest city. Population: 59,600,000.
and
Northern Ireland is an administrative region and one of four constituent parts of the United Kingdom. It has a land border with the Republic of Ireland in the island of Ireland and is otherwise bounded by sea. It covers 14,139 square kilometres (5,459 square miles) in the north-east of the island, and has a population of 1,685,000 (April 2001). The capital is Belfast.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Who's law are we talking about?
Northern Ireland is British under British law. The IRA doesn't recognize that. They want it to be Irish, under Irish law. I am not condoning all the violence that they wrought over the years but their basic argument is correct. The British should get out! Now!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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AHA.....
You've conceded the Malvinas issue. The Island belongs to Argentina and you unlawfully went to war with that nation which was attempting to protect its own territory. Do I read you correctly?
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Limey
Why don't they call it Northern England then? Why is it called Northern Ireland..because it is Northern Ireland and should be part of the Irish Republic. You have no right there at all. You can't justify it!!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
I hate to disabuse you, but according to law Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. If you have evidence to the contrary please produce it.
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Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
If it can be proved in law that the Falkland Islands are part of Argentina then, of course, the territory should be ceded to Argentina.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Oh is it really?
Northern Ireland is part of Ireland. It should be part of the Irish Republic and you Brits should get your asses out of there. If you'd have done the right thing years ago, there wouldn't have been an Irish Republican Army and no unrest! Don't preach to us!!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Now you're changing the subject!
Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Falkland Islands indeed
It belongs to Argentina and it is called the Malvinas. You have no right there. What if the Argentinians claimed Guernsey and sent an invading force to kick you out! What would you do then? The sun never sets on your damned hypocrisy!!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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PoeticHoneyDew
That's easy: both.
PS Read my earlier items and you'll find out why. And didn't you realise that it's because I want you all to change for the better that I'm writing these posts?
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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What about Northern Ireland
It's called Northern Ireland..not Northern Britain. Why don't you get the hell out of there and leave it to the Irish. Who the hell are you to talk about U.S. foreign policy! Look at your own. The Irish want to be free of you..set them free you hypocrite!!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
The Falkland Islands are British: a fact even the American government accepts. Why don't you?
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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As long as you don't confuse the American government with the American
people.
Most Americans are entirely ignorant of what the US does in other countries or even in their own. But there are worse things in the wold than ignorance... and if every American was aware of the kinds of horrible things the government here gets away with, there'd be a lot of changes being made.
So do you hate the US governent? It's people? Or both?
posted by
PoeticHoneyDew
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June 22, 2005
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Your territory...?
A small island off the coast of Argentina? What right have you to be criticizing others foreign policy when your nation violates the rights of a sovereign nation by invading!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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Burly
Hardly a 'claim'- they invaded our territory.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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David
That was then ...
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Sphere of Influence!!
Your sorry nation went all the way to Argentina to quell a perfectly legitimate claim by the Argentinians on the Malvinas..which you call the Falklands. Who are you to talk about foreign policy!
posted by
Burly
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June 22, 2005
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I really like that one line...
".......pretended to be democratic, freedom-loving and secularist, while she used every undemocratic means, suppressed every freedom and inflamed religious fires to perpetuate her own and her party's rule and dominance........"
I pretty sure that was the mindset of many people who lived for years under British Imperialism and Dominion! Remember those days?
posted by
David1Spirit
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June 22, 2005
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behindamask
If you don't know, I certainly don't.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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ukie
Most of us do.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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ukie
Americans are, collectively, responsible for America. It's a fact of life.
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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behindamask
Mothers always use little homilies to bring their children into line. But presumably you're grown up now and can think for yourself? If not, try cutting those apron strings.
PS If the horse - America - is dead I'll stop flogging it!
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Limey
Why do I love you and hate you at the same time?
Why do I personally want to flog you in one moment, and then I bathe in the sunlight of your words in the next?
posted by
behindamask
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June 22, 2005
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Mothers always have use little homilies to bring their children in line. But presumably you're grown up now and can think for yourself? If not, try cutting those apron strings.
PS If the horse - America - is dead I'll stop flogging it!
posted by
Limey
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June 22, 2005
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Limey
My mother taught me that the anger and hostility others hold against me are usually a direct result of their own insecurities; qualities they carry within themselves; dead horses they continue to beat but can never break.
I'm wondering, if you hold inside yourself, a bit of Americanism. Hmm...because you continue to beat the same dead horse. 
posted by
behindamask
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June 22, 2005
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to answer your question:
No, I don't just hate Americans. I hate hate.
posted by
FerretLover
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June 22, 2005
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error...
come in all shapes and sizes... what matters is if the shoe fits.
posted by
FerretLover
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June 22, 2005
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