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MichaelPilarte,
Thank you for the historical perspective on the Crusades.  As you say, what's past is past, wars will never cease as long as vendettas and feuds are based on vengeance for wrongs committed thousands of years ago. 

posted by Blanche. on June 4, 2005 at 5:40 PM | link to this | reply

Very well put,
and interesting as well. Thanks.

posted by RAME on June 3, 2005 at 1:59 PM | link to this | reply

yes agreed
it was a social thing -- laws required a thief's hand be cut off.
i know someone who wants to reinstate such a law.
but -- the culture required such.
it's religious tolerance.
The Church didn't have much.
thus the Inquisition, aimed at all who dissented from its mores.

posted by Xeno-x on June 1, 2005 at 4:03 PM | link to this | reply

In some ways I agree with you but overall, I differ.  Christians have never tolerant (at least midieval), sins were punished rather cruely and just about anything was blasphemy which at tiems was punisheable by death.  Muslims were not different.

posted by michael_pilarte on June 1, 2005 at 1:21 PM | link to this | reply

only thing is
Muslims have historically been much more tolerant of other religions than have Christians.
Jews lived peaceable in Moslem Spain until Ferdinand and Isabella completed the Spanish conquest; then the Spanish Inquisition began.
Look at all the Jewish and Christian sites left to coexist peaceably wit Moslem: Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Church of the Nativity, certain Jewish sites and the Jewish religion itself, etc.
It is interesting that in the Church of the Nativity several Orthodox sects vie for control, each claiming ownership of the site.
And that the Crusaders, who boasted, "My strength is as the the strength of ten because my heart is pure." -- with that pure heart, devastated the Balkans, enslaved the populace to their service and, upon attaining control on Constantinople, massacred Jews and Eastern Orthodox alike.
Such a holy thing.

posted by Xeno-x on June 1, 2005 at 7:39 AM | link to this | reply

being right
a person cannot be right and happy at the same time.

posted by avant-garde on May 31, 2005 at 2:38 AM | link to this | reply