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Glenn, when you speak, it doesn't help.

It's called impeachment.  And, look how well it got Clinton out of office.  Offbeat, I like you, girl, but George W is destroying this country and if you looked at the things, point by point, he's personally done since he's been in office, you'd see why I say that.  It WAS a slim margin election last time, and the Court's decided the first time.  He's cut program after program domestically, and spent billions on a war that didn't need to happen.  The people he appoints to positions have actual criminal records.  Niiiiice. 

posted by Temple on May 13, 2005 at 12:02 PM | link to this | reply

Well, I can only speak for myself, you know.

posted by TARZANA on May 13, 2005 at 8:40 AM | link to this | reply

Fab

I must admit, not quite what I was expecting.

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 8:27 AM | link to this | reply

Limey ... here are my personal reasons for attacking a neighbor:

1. He was ugly, had big ears, and was approaching my house, on my lawn.

2. He was MINE, and he was having an intimate candlelight dinner and wine in his new apartment with "just a friend."

3. The stupid head doctor overdosed me and my stupid stepmother let me go out that night. 

4. He was ugly, had kicked me out pregnant, and was approaching me in a big hurry while shouting angrily.  He can keep the bleeping oil.

posted by TARZANA on May 13, 2005 at 8:10 AM | link to this | reply

OffbeatPub,

The point is clear! Just because you are elected does not mean you cannot be removed! See John F. Kennedy or Richard Nixon!  

posted by Glennb on May 13, 2005 at 7:28 AM | link to this | reply

Weak arguement Glen. Very weak.. I love my President..it's that simple.

posted by Offy on May 13, 2005 at 7:25 AM | link to this | reply

Offbeatpub,

Remember that evil dictator? He got 99% of the vote before Bush invaded, with 100% less carnage and cost! So be careful what you hang your argument on! You could be the next target!

posted by Glennb on May 13, 2005 at 7:09 AM | link to this | reply

 Does everyone forget this man was voted into office? Not by the slim margin once thought either. Thank God for our W....

posted by Offy on May 13, 2005 at 6:27 AM | link to this | reply

Temple,

Get your facts in order! The president can be removed from office! In effect "fire" him! Of course course you can't walk in and say your are fired! But there are means to get this fool out of office! The problem no one has the funding or courage to begin the process.

posted by Glennb on May 13, 2005 at 6:14 AM | link to this | reply

Temple

I concede you have a problem - and one for you alone to solve.

However, a change of leader would seem like a good first step. Why not start planning your campaign now?

PS I'm glad you enjoyed your spell in London. I'll try to post a few more examples of the differences between British and American English.

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 4:38 AM | link to this | reply

Okay, wait...

I do back that comment you just made to Ms. N.  Absolutely.  Unfortunately, our government is so, what, corrupt?  Almost.  I don't know what the solution is.  I feel that Americans feel helpless often times and don't vote, don't volunteer.  We must reach them if any change will happen. 

posted by Temple on May 13, 2005 at 4:13 AM | link to this | reply

You know, I try really hard to stay out of here.

But, you don't help us when you talk about firing the President.  You can't FIRE a president.  Inarticulate comments made whilst high don't help us....nor do those made by loonies who scream incoherant statements about everything at every opportunity.  Pay attention, formulate an argument, know your adversary (Limey is quite obviously a British term) and then speak.  Like a grown up.  Damn.  I don't back Limey's stand, you know this, I've made my point (I think while taking my own advice, I would hope anyway).  But this is just silly.  I will say, however, I do like your posts on the differences in our language...the slang.  When I first arrived in London and my hostel mate spoke of "getting pissed" I thought, why on earth?  Now, some of my vocabulary has been permanently changed from the time I went to school in the UK. 

posted by Temple on May 13, 2005 at 4:11 AM | link to this | reply

Ms N Dependence

As they say, great minds think alike!

Seriously, I believe America must move towards a more peaceful, sustainable future - or perish.

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 4:05 AM | link to this | reply

GlennB

To get rid of GWB would be a first, important step in the right direction.

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 3:58 AM | link to this | reply

Mape6

I write this crap, as you call it, to point out that your arrogant, ignorant, greedy ways are not appreciated by the rest of the world. Got it?

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 3:55 AM | link to this | reply

Tigerprincess

I do.

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 3:07 AM | link to this | reply

Fact

See my note to Passionflower.

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 3:04 AM | link to this | reply

posted by Limey on May 13, 2005 at 3:04 AM | link to this | reply

Limey Darling!

This post echos oh-so-many of the debates I have had with Republican former boyfriends. I suppose I should be careful - as this is the second time I have made such a statement to you - 'someone' might start thinking that you are really me - or that I am really you. Wouldn't that be hilarious!

posted by Transcendental_Child on May 13, 2005 at 2:49 AM | link to this | reply

Tigerprincess,

Somebody has to fire this idiot President! The Brits and Americans keep hiring these symbols of ignorance!

posted by Glennb on May 12, 2005 at 7:19 PM | link to this | reply

attention seeker

you just write this crap to get people to respond to you. sure america may have ulterior motives, but doesn't everyone? see-you ulterior motive even got me replying to you.

posted by Mapet6 on May 12, 2005 at 6:21 PM | link to this | reply

You must feel pretty strong about that NO seeing as how you posted it twice.....

posted by tigerprincess on May 12, 2005 at 5:49 PM | link to this | reply

Aaaaand, why don't you demonstrate, Limey??

You would have us individually strive to make a difference in our country, but you don't by setting a good example? Likewise if all of the world feels this way, then they should collectively voice their resistance to the Americans and American ways you oppose. I don't see either one, and both would be much more productive at guilting Americans into change. Harping on it does nada. Zip. Zilch. Actually in my case it ticks me off enough at the moment to say, "Good for us, dammit. And I'll start by keeping my tourist dollars at home."

No need for the rest of you to pacify me... it's out of my system now.

posted by FactorFiction on May 12, 2005 at 4:27 PM | link to this | reply

tigerprincess

No.

posted by Limey on May 12, 2005 at 3:52 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

This blog's about America and Americans. If you have the will, you'll find a way.

posted by Limey on May 12, 2005 at 3:52 PM | link to this | reply

Cantey

You're right, of course.

posted by Limey on May 12, 2005 at 3:50 PM | link to this | reply

We Americans are not stupid...We know all that stuff you wrote about

What would you have us do about it though? Should we:

1. Fire the president?
2. Write angry letters to our congressmen?
3. Get mad at Haliburton and Lochheed and stop buying their products?

I'm afraid there's little any of us can do about these problems in our country. I don't know what country you live in, but I'm certain that if you'll check, you'll find just as many greedy, unscrupulous politicians in your own back yard.

posted by Passionflower on May 12, 2005 at 3:50 PM | link to this | reply

tigerprincess

No.

posted by Limey on May 12, 2005 at 3:49 PM | link to this | reply

more like a million

posted by cantey_1975 on May 12, 2005 at 3:49 PM | link to this | reply

American greed

Cantey: as they say, one pic's worth a thousand words.

posted by Limey on May 12, 2005 at 3:48 PM | link to this | reply

It was oil from the start

Oil, oil and oil - this was the reason and the only reason for the war. The rest was mere camouflage. And you know it.

posted by Limey on May 12, 2005 at 3:41 PM | link to this | reply

GlennB:

Coalition forces have been busy fighting the insurgents and Iraqis rebuilding their lives; it is reasonable that they did not find all the mass graves right away. 

Thanks, Tigerprincess, for mentioning that important point. 

We went to war for all those reasons.  The world is not as simple as believed by either neocons or those on the opposite pole.  A complex web of motives influence our decisions, and yes oil interests were one of those motives, an important one.

That oil influenced our decision did not make it wrong to overthrow a vicious dictator.  If people only took action when they were sure their motives were pure, they wouldn't take much action.

posted by Dylan24 on May 12, 2005 at 2:27 PM | link to this | reply

Tigerprincess,

Don't you think that it is little odd that these graves are suddenly turning up? Saddam has been out for over two years now!

posted by Glennb on May 12, 2005 at 12:42 PM | link to this | reply

posted by cantey_1975 on May 12, 2005 at 12:35 PM | link to this | reply

Did you know

that in Iraq, they were finding recently made mass graves (recent before Hussein was taken out). For a country who didn't go in to remove an evil dictator, dontcha' think they did a good job!!

posted by tigerprincess on May 12, 2005 at 12:13 PM | link to this | reply

Limey,

The Bushie's are not alone here! We have these Saudis and Kuwaitis who contribute nothing to society, feeding the greed of Americans! Stupid Americans I add! Boy are we suckers (Brits also). These Saudis would not let a drop of oil touch their designer Dress! Wouldn't know an oil rig if it fell on them? They just sit back and watch the price go up and sell us the paper!

You don't have to be smart, just not as dumb as Americans! And Brits!

posted by Glennb on May 12, 2005 at 10:39 AM | link to this | reply

LIMEY

As with everything else in today's world......greed rules!

Waging a war or starting a business? One and the same I fear.

posted by TIMMYTALES on May 12, 2005 at 10:25 AM | link to this | reply

fwlmystic

And judging by your record, no doubt you will - but without the UK. Once bitten, twice shy!

posted by Limey on May 12, 2005 at 8:30 AM | link to this | reply

Limy, these are the spoils of war ...

pillaging and plundering all in the name of freedom, democracy, religion and electoral campaign contributions. Combine that with the torture and abuse at Abu Ghrave, and this is what we refer to in the states as a win-win with no downside.

Ok, so not everything went according to plan. What should we do with those pesky "dead-enders?" Kill one, and 10 spring forwad to take their place. Hmmm. Maybe we should use one of our latest technological weapons to obliterate all the people, leave the infrastructure, and just start over. Then we can proceed to Iran, then Syria, then Egypt, then ...

posted by fwmystic on May 12, 2005 at 7:34 AM | link to this | reply