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This is a top rated blog. I'm sure Americans must be loving it for being noticed.
posted by
Ms_MADAME_BOVARY
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May 3, 2005
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Who cares?
Who cares? Americans want to be hated only to draw attention. I hate Penguins hanging around the North Pole.High time they came down and started blogging!
posted by
Ms_MADAME_BOVARY
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May 3, 2005
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About FAT Americans?
You know if you could just for one minute see that NOT ALL of us Americans are happy with the way things are going these days. Not ALL of us support the death penalty. And NOT ALL of us are fat, idiotic, arrogant, gun-blazing, hypocritical, well-to-do, plantation owners(which don't exist anymore)!
Not to mention have you even thought about how low quality our own food is? It is nearly impossible to find any good food that doesn't have HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP. Our food manufacturers put all kinds of crap in our food and we have very few choices that are healthy for us.
We can't even guarantee that our home-cooked meals are safe because of the ever growing prevalentcy of bio-engineered food, or what Europeans call FRANKEN-FOOD. It's bad stuff. Yet, researchers are beginning to suggest that one of the major reasons Americans are blowing up in size is because of all these chemicals in our food.
There are all kinds of chemimcals that cause obesity. Hell, even doctor prescribed contraceptives cause people to gain weight.
So enough of the fat-calling, please. At least talk more about our politics, that is more interesting. But boldface name calling is silly and very hurtful.
I do read your posts and I like reading them for the most part. But every other word out of your writing is how FAT WE ARE. I do like seeing how others view things besides our own conglomerate news, broadcasted & printed.
We don't even get good news. Half of it is just a partial truth. The other half are either lies or over-opinionated politics.
posted by
brain_staples
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April 29, 2005
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Oh Limey...I agree but, if you would only know....
What it's like on the other side...It can sometimes get the best of you and wish death upon someone...but in containment...like my story said, "turn the cheek, don't become what hurt you." Good work!
posted by
cosy
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April 28, 2005
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Re: states making execution harder
It will likely be the Supreme Court, the federal government, that pushes states toward more humane execution policy.
Many Americans, even, are not aware that a Supreme Court ruling many years ago abolished the death penalty on grounds that its application was "arbitrary and capricious," and that the death penalty was re-instated by a more conservative Supreme Court, about 20 years later.
The Supreme Court, that is, has immense power -- it was the Supreme Court that made abortion legal and that forced the desegregation of public schools. Our Constitution gives overriding power to the national government, so no state can maintain laws that contradict federal ones.
For example, the 14th Amendment prohibits any government, national or state, from treating its citizens unequally under its laws. If the Supreme Court finds a state, for example, not giving its defendants equally adept legal counsel, especially in capital (murder) cases, the Supreme Court can not only mandate such equality but could actually re-abolish the death penalty on the same "arbitrary and capricious" grounds, which would go in effect throughout the country and force states to make their criminal justice systems fairer to potential executees.
So my point is that we do not have to rely on Texas to mend its ways, although please appreciate that a substantial portion of Texans are much fairer-minded than the President who came from that state and the majority (not such a huge one) that elects far-right Republicans. Sister Helen Prejean is a Catholic nun who advocates against the death penalty -- she's a native of the execution-happy Louisiana, and there are actually quite a few people down in those parts who share her sentiments. The reason most Americans continue to support the death penalty is not because they believe the system is fair to its poor defendants (almost all people realize it is NOT) but because they know that there are a bunch of truly guilty people on death row whose crimes were so heinous that it is easy to want them to die. This is not to justify the death penalty, because despite my natural bloodlust, I find rational reasons to oppose killing except in self-defense; but most people here fully realize that the system needs major change. It's just that people are too busy taking care of their own needs, which is made difficult by a system that requires people to work ever-longer hours for diminishing pay and benefits. Doesn't leave much time or energy for standing up for the interests of poor criminal defendants or anyone else.
posted by
Dylan24
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April 28, 2005
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Sassy
Thanks: I respect your views.
posted by
Limey
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April 28, 2005
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ok
posted by
cantey_1975
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April 27, 2005
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I will say this once again
Not all Americans support our ridiculous laws. We do have DNA testing here in the state's and they have enhanced it in the last few years. Many innocent victims have been allowed to walk free. I do not believe that we have the right to take another persons life with the exception of self defense. Sometimes you just don't have a choice.
posted by
sassyass_64
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April 27, 2005
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Cantey
I know. But mine wasn't!
posted by
Limey
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April 27, 2005
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I understand, Limey
actually my comment was "tongue in cheek"
posted by
cantey_1975
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April 27, 2005
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Ms N Dependence
Point taken!
posted by
Limey
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April 27, 2005
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DylanValente
You say the trend is towards making it harder to execute. Is this the case in all 16 states Moore lists, or just some of them?
The present system appears remarkably unfair and, I would imagine, subject to political pressure.
However, I'm heartened to learn of your personal antipathy for the death penalty and that there are moves afoot to bring in DNA evidence and better legal representation.
Please accept my thanks for your earlier comments: I hope to respond over the next few days.
posted by
Limey
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April 27, 2005
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Cantey
I might dislike, loathe or hate some people for their views or activities; that doesn't mean I would have any wish to kill them. Today, we British are a reasonably civilized lot.
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Limey
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April 27, 2005
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The trend here is toward making it harder to execute, requiring DNA evidence and better legal representation. Several states have the death penalty on paper but never use it; Illinois imposed a moratorium on executions because of concerns about its inequitable application. Where I live, Maryland, the former governor did a moratorium too, but then a more conservative governor lifted it; in any case, we still have very few executions.
I would abolish the death penalty for the simple reason that killing cannot be justified except in self-defense; but nonetheless, the points you raise are really important. It comes down to race and money, but mostly money; wealthy defendants, whatever their color, get great legal counsel; poor defendants often get poor counsel because public defendants are often overworked and underpaid.
posted by
Dylan24
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April 27, 2005
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And to prove my point...
Sigh.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
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April 27, 2005
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Our judicial system is total crap. We need to hit the reset button and start it all over again.
posted by
roofpig
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April 27, 2005
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if you hate americans
why do you care if they are executed?
would it not be logical for you to encourage the death penalty in America, even if the innocents are falsely convicted and executed? That way the American population is thinned. Therefore less Americans. Therefore less America.
Isn't that good?
posted by
cantey_1975
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April 27, 2005
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Limey, you are most welcome.
I think rhetoric is lost on the masses. You see here in America, humor and satire are spoon fed us and most still require subtitles. In short, I think your title is just fine. You should no more change that than your hard hitting writing style. You are a breath of fresh air.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
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April 27, 2005
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Ms N Dependence
Thank you so much for your kind remarks.
As I've said several times before, my purpose on Blogit is to shake Americans out of their complacency and to encourage them to see themselves as others see them.
Of course, I'm not surprised at the hostile reception from certain quarters - the truth and new ideas are often painful.
One final thought. Do you think my blog's title is a little strong for American tastes? It is supposed to be rhetorical, not offensive.
posted by
Limey
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April 27, 2005
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Limey
Up until now - I have neglected reading you due to the desire to avoid Blogit hoopla (not your hoopla - but the hoopla of others -dare I say now that I have read you - wishing to draw attention to themselves). You do make some very salient points... and I can not for the life of me disagree with you. Good writing... I will continue reading your posts. As a British Literature teacher - I am sure a great deal could be learned from one such as yourself.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
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April 27, 2005
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fwmystic
Of course, George W. Bush was governor of Texas, and during his time in office sanctioned some 152 executions. How many of those killed were innocent, I wonder? Do you know the details?
posted by
Limey
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April 27, 2005
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I live in Texas, the blood-thirsty state ...
In Texas, we take the view that if you're not guilty of this particularly heinous crime, you probably got away with something similar in the past and therefore deserve to die anyway.
posted by
fwmystic
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April 27, 2005
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Georgia -
I liked your poem.
But surely it doesn't take fruit to sustain American's ceramic choppers?
posted by
Limey
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April 27, 2005
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