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If they weren't infidel dogs in the first place, there'd be no problem!

posted by majroj on April 17, 2005 at 6:08 PM | link to this | reply

pappy -- it all boils down to, or eminates from all that is wrong
with discriminating against people simply based on what they believe. There must be another qualifier or criteria other than the acceptance of a specific dogma. It is either that or society will continue on in it's little cliquish fashion. To try to describe the thoughts of another person is something that even the professionals in the field have trouble with. 

posted by gomedome on April 17, 2005 at 8:52 AM | link to this | reply

majroj -- your comment illustrates a likely demographic breakdown
When a full 95% of the populace profess a belief in God it is very likely that the pool of our associates will be dominated by believers. Unless of course an individual has their own specific criteria for choosing their friends and associates. In my case, aside from the natural friend selection process that everyone would normally use, my associates have to be tolerant of the beliefs of others. If they are not, they last about 5 minutes with me if you can imagine.     

posted by gomedome on April 17, 2005 at 8:48 AM | link to this | reply

The damndest thing happened...

While my wife and I are more the "show me" sort, we have found over the years that our friends, few as they are and picky as we may be, tend to be people with faith; an even smaller number of them are have faith as a prominent part of their lives. One even rushed into Belloruss (sp?) not long after the Sov's pulled out to proselytize. But none except one family were ever "pushy" with us, and with them we had civil and hardly-varying conversations about societal killing (war, capital punishment, ignoring human rights problems, versus abortion and assisted or unassisted suicide...our kids were in the other room watching Star Wars). These folks in general (not only the last couple mentioned) tend to be dependable and decent, their kids well-adjusted. Not to say the couples who didn't choose to talk about their faith all have kids with peanut butter stains on their underwear and snot hanging from their noses, to borrow from Lenny Bruce, but they tended a lttle more to have problems.

Those of religious faith I can't stand would be arseholes no matter what their preeminent interest, be it religion, radio controlled airplanes, tulips or guns. It's just so irritating when idiotic people try to hijack religion for their own purposes and succeed!

posted by majroj on April 17, 2005 at 2:40 AM | link to this | reply

gomedome
You are right. Actually I would say that most people don't even know themselves all that well. As for knowing someone else, even your spouse, it's a shot in the dark at best. All we can really do is commiserate and share experiences and hope to learn a little from the mistakes made by others. I think it was probably the printing press that first put us over the hump of becoming really aware of ourselves and our possibilities.

posted by pappy on April 16, 2005 at 8:16 PM | link to this | reply