Go to Janes Opinion
- Add a comment
- Go to Of What Value is Life? Of What Value Is A Brain Full of Dead Cells?
Thank you, Mandalee, for visiting and commenting!
God bless.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 28, 2005 at 9:42 AM
| link to this | reply
JanesOpinion, Thank you for such a beautiful post!
posted by
Amanda__
on March 28, 2005 at 8:49 AM
| link to this | reply
JanesOpinion and amdg...
thank you so much for those encouraging and kind words. Janes, I too look forward to meeting you in heaven as well. Amdg, I have always been in the light, however, this experience has just brought us closer to Him. You know we could have gone either way with a traumatic event like that but we know He has blessed us and still does.
It is interesting to hear a person refer to Terri as a hobby for her parents. It is interesting to hear someone, who does not believe in GOD, say that if their child could not walk, as is in the case of our daughter, then it would be better form them to die. The interesting part is some people believe that we should be joyful when someone passes on because they are going to a better place, their place with GOD. In this case, we have a non-believer who says instead of living it would be better for his child to be dead in a cold box in the ground with no afterlife, no anything. You would think a non-believer would value life more than anything even quality of life. Reminds me of Hitler. The desire for a "perfect" race. Of course, we all know how that turned out.
posted by
RedStatesMan
on March 26, 2005 at 8:11 PM
| link to this | reply
And Kooka,
your thoughts, as always, are clouded by your extreme views against and intolerance towards Christians.
I am thankful you have healthy, happy, lively boys and that you spend time with them. Well done! I pray they always stay healthy and major injury free -- for their sakes.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 7:52 PM
| link to this | reply
Janes
You want to know what I did this evening after leaving that comment? I went out with my family. I looked at my boys and I thought about the situation with that 20 year girl or with Terri Schiavo. My boys are full of life and love being able to live and run around and be themselves and express joy for being alive and experience all they can experience. if they were to suddenly loose mobility and no longer be able to talk and be denied the ability to live life... No, I would never force them to have to suffer by staying alive after that. If their minds were still there then I would be torturing them in the most evil of manners. If their minds were gone (Which is what I would hope had happened) then it is just their bodies and not them at all. I would not be selfish and try to keep them alive once who they really are has died. I love them far too much to ever do such a horrible and inhuman thing to them. I value their lives beyond belief, more than my own, and I would never once think of trivializing who they are by thinking that they need to be kept alive just for the sake of keeping them alive.
I guess I am just to caring a person for that.
Allowing people to die is not thinking about yourself, it is thinking about the person. Keeping them alive is the purely selfish act of it all. They gain nothing from being kept alive, accept maybe more torture and suffering. Your thoughts, as always, are clouded by your religious ideas and so you are not even close to having them be well thought out.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 26, 2005 at 7:19 PM
| link to this | reply
Sorry, I said hobby, you used the word pet.
About the same difference.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 5:41 PM
| link to this | reply
Kooka, I don't think you will ever understand.
I pity you. To say that caring for this 20 year old has become a hobby for her parents, is an insult to a wonderful, self sacrificing couple. You are judgmental, dogmatic and so incredibly intolerant. Again, I pity you.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 5:40 PM
| link to this | reply
Thanks, amdg, for commenting.
Odd how so many people understand this post while others have absolutely no clue and seem to resist wanting to even understand.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 5:37 PM
| link to this | reply
Janes
I insinuated that you we lacking the ability to understand what I was saying. You seem to still not understand ti all.
I said I hope that she is gone from her body. Since I am a caring, loving person I have to believe this with all of my being, otherwise her parents and all those who are trying to keep her alive are about as pure evil as ti comes.
If she is till in there, which is a POSSIBILITY (One that I do not agree with because it is just too cruel and heartless to think otherwise) then it is torture for her to be trapped in that body and we would never force such inhumane and straight out evil horror on the worst of our criminals.
As for the girl you are talking about, I feel her parents are being selfish and cruel t her. She is very obviously unable to live life and has become more or less a pet for them, and even worse than that she is a pet that can do nothing be be there and help them to look good because they are taking care of such poor soul. Such things really should be left up to the family to decided, but I personally would never wish such suffering on my children and would do the humane thing and allow them to die instead of living , trapped in their own bodies.
If there is a God has made tons and tons of mistakes. To think otherwise is pure self imposed ignorance.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 26, 2005 at 4:02 PM
| link to this | reply
"whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren, this you do unto me"
Thank you Jane for a beautiful post. You, RSM, and all the others who allow themselves to be transformed by the mystery of suffering are an inspiration. When I see the way tragedy brings people to the Light I am reminded of what I learned as a kid:
God works all things unto the good
posted by
AnCatubh
on March 26, 2005 at 1:10 PM
| link to this | reply
Amen, dear Tapsel-T
Thanks for stopping by!! And enjoy your day of spreading love and cheer to those around you!!!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 7:38 AM
| link to this | reply
This is a wonderful post, JanesO. Loving and caring for others less fortunate than ourselves is what humanity is all about. God in his goodness knows what is best for us. It is sad that there are people who have never had the wonderful opportunity to really get to know and love and care for an extremely-challenged person.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 26, 2005 at 7:35 AM
| link to this | reply
Oh, and RedStatesMan (great handle, by the way)
give that daughter of yours a hug from Jane. You and your family are to be commended for the sacrifices you have made in her care. Having this awful event has obviously changed your lives, and I would venture to guess that through all this suffering you have been a blessing to many others.
Be encouraged!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 12:17 AM
| link to this | reply
RSM --
I am with you on this subject. You had alluded to your daughter in a previous comment (I believe to one of Kooka's rants) and I knew there was a story to be told but did not know any details. Thanks so much for sharing them. I cannot begin to imagine the anger and wrath and hunger for vengeance you must have felt. I believe you acted appropriately, though, in leaving the ultimate judgment to God. There will come a day when true justice will be handed out to every one by the the God of the universe who is both absolutely just . . . and is absolutely merciful . . . I look forward to both!
I'm having a sleepless night after a 10 hour shift at work of transfusing a patient with 10 units of blood products within a six hour period. The adrenaline is coursing through my veins. Can't type, can't think all that well, can't spell well, can't sleep. But I will say that your comments are much appreciated, and I'm thankful they were an encouragement to you.
I shall look forward to meeting you and your family in Heaven. Meanwhile, I shall try once again to get some sleep. . . .
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 12:09 AM
| link to this | reply
Thanks, DV, for your comments.
They are much appreciated! Up until these thoughts came to me, I had been struggling with my reaction to Terri and trying to get to the crux of the matter.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 26, 2005 at 12:00 AM
| link to this | reply
Thank You Jane...
for one if not the best post I have read on this topic. This is about Terri. However, what it has done is it has brought out the truth about people. It is also a political situation in the aspect of whether you are a liberal or conservative. Both have their own beliefs. The liberals are definitely showing their true thoughts. The conservatives are showing what everyone has always knew. The liberals lie about how they are for the common man, the poor, the elderly, the HANDICAPPED, the minorities, etc. Well, well, we see the truth now don't we? Looks like those mean ole conservatives are not the mean ones at all.
GREAT POST JANE! After a worthless bitch, a so-called day care provider, shook our, then age 5 mos. old daughter, to the point of death where she had a feeding tube for a while at Duke and after the docotr's actually had the nerve to suggest putting her in a home and now after 7 years of her being in a cerebal palsy type of existence I must say that if it was not for my belief in GOD and my family and their dependency on my one income, I would certainly have killed that bitch and her two worthless attorneys. People always say to me "I would have killed someone who hurt my child" There again you must think before you say things. of course, I have always wanted to kill them. But what would happen to my family? How would I answer GOD? The only reason why I do not say "I hate liberals" is because as a Christian I am not to say I hate anyone. That is the only reason I do not say that. Trust me. But that's okay because all of these people on here saying the most hateful things like D-Man and kooka about this woamn will get theirs on judgement day. Right along with Michael Schiavo, his lawyer and Judge Greer. Except there punishment will be for eternity.
GREAT POST THANK YOU JANE!
posted by
RedStatesMan
on March 25, 2005 at 7:27 PM
| link to this | reply
You have zoomed in on a very important point about our culture's respect toward life, or lack thereof --
that it is very common to view a person as not worthy of living if he or she cannot function and does not seem to have a meaningful life.
This common view reduces life to utilitarian and hedonist goals -- it does not respect any intrinsic value to life.
Also that the burden placed on the young, healthy and functioning by the old, sick or otherwise less functioning, is taken as cause for ending the latter's life -- we are a culture of convenience.
We don't want to be burdened by others -- we think such burdens hamper our freedom.
It is good for you to question that view. I hope many others do too.
posted by
Dyl_Pickle
on March 25, 2005 at 7:02 PM
| link to this | reply
Thanks Justso
I've looked for your blogs . . . the only one I've seen has been your quiz, which I've pondered but haven't had time to go exploring for the answer. I shall look for other writings by you, cuz they're always excellent!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 25, 2005 at 2:42 PM
| link to this | reply
Jane's another good one.
I have been right here writing daily. I did only one on this subject, thus far no one has read it. Christinas don't read Christian blogs any more than those of scoffers.
posted by
Justi
on March 25, 2005 at 1:51 PM
| link to this | reply