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I remember in religious class that there is purgatory to cleanse the unclean soul who then is allowed to enter heaven.
Ann.
posted by
A-and-B
on January 27, 2005 at 1:11 PM
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Holy Spirit
human names don't do it justice.
pneuma -- wind -- word for spirit -- can't see, just can see the results.
see John 3.
I think I've been moved by this "holy spirit" to explore and arrive at an understanding of what Yeshua and all the original preachers of "The Way" had to say. The best example of this is the Sermon on the Mount, which I have included in MY TRANSLATIONS.
I seek the root. I seek to shed the human perceptions that have colored our world and created so much myth.
posted by
Xeno-x
on January 27, 2005 at 9:40 AM
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EHP
I understand that premise, and it is right of course to want to know what the truth is and what is a false doctrine of men. The point is this: Do you think the Holy Spirit is indispensible when it comes to knowing what is truth ( of Gods WOrd) and what is error, or do you think the human mind alone can do this?
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 27, 2005 at 7:53 AM
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my premise, Jackie_o
I have attempted to return to the main stalk of the vine.
That was departed from starting about 2 to 300 years after the original events. A lot of what is now perceived comes from this period of about 100 C.E. to about 1600 C.E., where much human thought was plastered on and covered the original intent.
I am attempting to chip away at that plaster coating.
posted by
Xeno-x
on January 27, 2005 at 7:11 AM
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extra handed perception
In your own words: Developed my views of religion independently, made the conscious decision to approach religion and philosophy independent of traditional Christianity. This is good to a degree, but if you follow it too far you put yourself in danger of severing from the Vine, and cutting off the sap.
This is your Teacher:
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine( logos) and declare( rhema) it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
there is a hell.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 26, 2005 at 7:46 PM
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we sure disagree...the Bible is pretty clear on this subject, as well as
Heaven...I've read what you've written in the past on both, and I completely disagree...Jesus said where I go there ye will be also...in my Father's house are many mansions...He says He's coming back and will reward us...some go to Heaven, some don't.
posted by
Ariala
on January 26, 2005 at 3:28 PM
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