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posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on January 4, 2005 at 7:44 AM
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Hmm very interested post
It's kind on the same track of a post I wrote not to long ago on the definement of a virgin. We can classifies ourself into catagories, but do we really fit? and if so, in what sense? Take care Silly~
posted by
SillySoul88
on January 3, 2005 at 10:32 AM
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YLF. PS
The only way to prove you love her is to Love her through good times and bad. Love her when she is happy, love her when she is mad. The only moment to love her is now, and now , and now. Let's not confuse the issue, by over simplifying and saying that marriage PROVES anything, but that you got married either in the Church or in a civil ceremony. Love is what we all seek, real love... and love is all we are required to give ... real love.
Who can judge the inner heart of another? No One but that person and God alone. So Love Love Love. Now and Now and Now.
Blessings to you. I wish I knew more of your life story. And truly, I hope you are happily married.
posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on December 30, 2004 at 4:56 PM
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YLF. No I need no excuses to participate in loving sex
My concern is for the fear based abuse heaped on millions by misrepresenting what Jesus came to teach which is Love Love Love Compassion Compassion Compassion Forgiveness Forgiveness Forgiveness. Commitment is commitment. Fornication is fornication. We are all trying to do our best in the world. We need to be 100% responsible for our behaviour whatever we do. I truly believe God looks at our inner intentions not our outward appearances. I appreciate your holding forth the sanctity of marriage, YLF, but Klara has an excellent point. Too many husbands (and wives) abuse their partners and hide these horrendous inner intentions by doing it under the protection of legal marriage.
posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on December 30, 2004 at 4:35 PM
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Of course sex outside marriage can be considered ethical.
There are many worthwhile reasons not to get married, as there are to get married. Many are personal, and some are practical. You can love someone and be sexually active with them outside of marriage and have more of a bond than when you are actively married to someone. I know when I was married, I felt more used by my husband during sex, as the love had obviously died way before the marriage was dissolved. Good post, Jim.
posted by
KlaraRoberts
on December 30, 2004 at 12:08 PM
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I think you're looking for an excuse to f**k around. The only way to prove to a woman you really love her is to marry her and stay married to her. Sorry. There's no other way to avoid
injuring someone.
posted by
TARZANA
on December 30, 2004 at 11:55 AM
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Gheehee, I am blushing thanks
posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on December 30, 2004 at 10:20 AM
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I so appreciate your bringing these issues out to discuss in such a
peaceful forum. Most religious discourse has such animosity, and it's easy to get sucked into the emotional end of the arguement. I've done it myself. It's great to see a truly spiritual approach to spiritual topics here. Thanks!
posted by
Gheeghee
on December 30, 2004 at 7:31 AM
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I admire your courage
The secret, for me, is not to be so attached to the results that one gives up loving those who engage in the discussion. Ultimately God knows our hearts and these rules are here to help us find our way. I try to remember that I am God having a human experience at the core of who I am.
Thanks for your risking a comment
posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on December 30, 2004 at 5:32 AM
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Jim, your post really makes me think about this topic ...
At one point in the Gospels, Jesus says that the only unforgivable sin is a sin against the Holy Spirit. I understand this to mean rejecting the Holy Spirit, which is God, who is Love... If no fornicator will enter into the kingdom of heaven, then fornication must include this sin against the Holy Spirit. So could a modern definition be something like this:
Consciously rejecting all hope for eternity and any kind of love that goes with you from any human being in exchange for unlimited sex that will end when you die.
It's so complicated...this is why I stay out of these discussions.
posted by
Gheeghee
on December 29, 2004 at 3:07 PM
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