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very nice to read you.

posted by 1965stories on December 28, 2004 at 11:02 AM | link to this | reply

All good lessons, I am sure ..NOW

you are a new creature in Christ and old things have passed away.....

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on December 27, 2004 at 6:43 PM | link to this | reply

Well, there is a background here, Jim, with her.

I befriended her when no other woman would. She was highly promiscuous her entire life. All my other friends told me not to become friends with her, and yet I did, as I did not want to judge her by other's standards. And then she turned on me as well. If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it is a duck, Jim. That's also what this all taught me. I took her into my home also.

posted by KlaraRoberts on December 27, 2004 at 6:36 PM | link to this | reply

Ahhh, dear wife this explains a lot

you have other stuff about her personality to forgive ... in my humble opinion.

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on December 27, 2004 at 6:27 PM | link to this | reply

That depends on the person, Pappy! LOL

Read my post about this. The woman I'm speaking of is definitely harder to keep an eye on! Sorry, don't mean to be facetious, but she broke some molds when she was born. The grudge seemed like a blessing in the end, as I could finally stop looking over my shoulder.

posted by KlaraRoberts on December 27, 2004 at 6:20 PM | link to this | reply

Klara, you ARE tough.

It is much harder to carry a grudge than to keep an eye on someone.

posted by pappy on December 27, 2004 at 6:16 PM | link to this | reply

No, Pappy, not at all. In fact, Jim's post on this is a response to a post

of mine where I refuse to forgive a friend. I've held a grudge for actually over fifteen years. I adore people, but when you hurt me too much, the old "if thine eye offends thee....." comes into play quickly.

posted by KlaraRoberts on December 27, 2004 at 4:58 PM | link to this | reply

You have BIG patience, Jim

I think i can't help but hold back a little the second time around.

posted by pappy on December 27, 2004 at 4:57 PM | link to this | reply

I don't know Klara,

i think you're pretty tough and i think you probably take it all the time for your friends.

posted by pappy on December 27, 2004 at 4:55 PM | link to this | reply

And believing in Harms Way

is a fear based thought and is therefore best understood as false evidence appearing real.

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on December 27, 2004 at 4:17 PM | link to this | reply

And putting myself in harm's way is what I'm avoiding, Pappy.

posted by KlaraRoberts on December 27, 2004 at 3:44 PM | link to this | reply

It is easy to forgive enemies,

like forgiving a wild animal for biting, it's just what it does.  Forgiving our 'friends' is much harder.  It means putting yourself in harm's way again.

posted by pappy on December 27, 2004 at 3:27 PM | link to this | reply

Of course you will

And it will be good productive thought I am sure

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on December 27, 2004 at 10:21 AM | link to this | reply

I agree with Ari, a very nice addition and ending.

I'll give this much thought of course.

posted by KlaraRoberts on December 27, 2004 at 9:18 AM | link to this | reply

Why, thank you, Dear

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on December 27, 2004 at 9:14 AM | link to this | reply

Very nice addition and ending.

posted by Ariala on December 27, 2004 at 9:06 AM | link to this | reply

This is true also, Ariala

I was not finished writing when you commented ... hope you will re read and comment again. Light!

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on December 27, 2004 at 8:59 AM | link to this | reply

I'm not sure we need to relive it, but I do think we need to find a

happy thought and think it.  It produces a higher vibration in us and attracts more positive things. 

posted by Ariala on December 27, 2004 at 8:46 AM | link to this | reply