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Rovesciato
and thank you
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beachbelle
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December 22, 2004
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Rovesciato
If I am a lifeline I am concerned. For all the interaction I have I sometimes think there are very few on nearby wavelengths. I always admire about you that you don't succumb to the nonsense.
posted by
beachbelle
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December 22, 2004
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Ca88
I agree that there is an etiquette but I don't think it should be overly prescribed. For instance I may not respond to every specific comment to my post but I do read and usually comment on my commenters.
posted by
beachbelle
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December 22, 2004
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Void-is
It's you who is astute. If we are not seen to placate and cuddle we are cast as the bad guy.
posted by
beachbelle
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December 22, 2004
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Abe Lincoln
I love your comment here
posted by
beachbelle
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December 22, 2004
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Nice post, beachy
posted by
Gheeghee
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December 22, 2004
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Once again I am echoing other comments here. When I joined my first post was very well recieved and I replied to the bloggers who commented to me and then read and commented ONLY thier blogs for awhile until I figured out how things worked around here. Shaycom, should really provide a primer on the way things work around here so newbies aren't left to flounder in the dark - looking for that one post that will explain how to get along.
posted by
MerryAnne
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December 22, 2004
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You are so right about this
When I first started at Blogit I didn't even know which end was up. There was a definate clique thing going on and those bloggers wanted no part of newbies. I always try to make sure to read new bloggers and make them feel welcome. If for any reason, I know how it feels to be new. We all have to start somewhere, and its made nicer when you are accepted from the get go. Great observation beachbelle, but you are good at catching things like that.
posted by
sassyass_64
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December 22, 2004
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Where there's people, there are clubs... I quit the Brownies and haven't looked back.
posted by
cmoe
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December 22, 2004
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A great analysis of this situation too, Beach.
Wilds and Void echo my sentiments exactly. I've talked with newbies, and what Void stated is correct, they get frustrated because they are not read. And like Wilds I question the real numbers (not number of blogs, but number of members). I would like additionally to see the new members have the opportunity for multiple blogs too, as what Scoop pointed out in my post the other night, many of the top 100 have many blogs, and a newbie coming on here might very well find that to be a very distinct competitive disadvantage.
posted by
KlaraRoberts
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December 22, 2004
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Beach
good post. I often wonder how many people are a part of this community. I've read there are thousands, and yet, I don't believe it.
posted by
Wildwoman_Laloba
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December 22, 2004
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Beachy great post, and Unicorn you are right a great comment
by void-is, he hit it perfect.
posted by
scoop
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December 22, 2004
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void-is, now that was a good comment!
I think that is a very accurate describtion; " a place to exhibit their insecurities". Anyway....
posted by
PastorB
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December 22, 2004
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Beach, It seems to me that there is a clubbyness to every part of
life not just on Blogit--in your neighborhood, the workplace, church, schools, amongst children, retirement groups, wherever. There is always an "in" group and those who feel as if they are on the fringes. It seems to be just a part of life. But, that doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't try to improve things.
posted by
TAPS.
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December 22, 2004
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there has been many arguments
between bloggers I agree!
but some have found a wonderful friendships and chat whilst they blog.....I feel nothing wrong with that!
however I do agree about scarying newbies off...because when I started here..I never left people comments just read them because I felt like everybody knew eachother...and I did not fit in...I would have apprieciate a post to introuduce ourselves..kay-ren does an excellent job...
but to actually introuduce us to talk to one another if you want too as many dont want to and thats fine....but some people dont know that they can.
wow look at me now...I dont know when to shut up!.
posted by
_Symphony_
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December 22, 2004
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When I first joined I didn't realise I was expected to answer comments on my posts, or leave comments for others. It was scriber who politely informed me of the etiquette. So maybe there are newbies out there who simply have no idea of what to do?
posted by
Ca88andra
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December 22, 2004
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A very astute observation, Beachbelle...
I felt that 'clubiness' when I got here and I still do, in fact. I would also like to add that it seems to me that quite a few people come and go because they want a place to write and be read, rather than a place to exhibit various insecurities, to have them cuddled and placated... I hope that made sense... :-)
posted by
void-is
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December 21, 2004
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as a nearly year and a half old blogger i can say that i still feel like a newbie in many respects. there was only about a month or two where i felt like i was integrating but it turned out that that was really just you, wonky, and dave cryer that i was associating with. gomedome and golden were always "on the side" as far as the network ws concerned. why the difference i'm not sure. anyway, i'm not exactly drowning, but you can consider yourself alifeline anyway :)
did i just use anyway twice in that same sentence?!?
posted by
rovesciato
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December 21, 2004
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Mary -it's not a problem, please don't be embarrassed
I don't expect you to read all of my posts and the boggling one is the one I care about least
posted by
beachbelle
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December 21, 2004
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Good to know. I just checked your blog "on blogging" and felt silly, because you had already answered that quesiton.
posted by
Blanche.
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December 21, 2004
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Mary x
I have seen it flare up from time to time. It has been worse lately than it has been for a while but I have seen worse than that in the past
posted by
beachbelle
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December 21, 2004
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Beach,
You've been here longer than I have. Would you say the "rowing" and mudslinging is any better or worse than when you started?
posted by
Blanche.
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December 21, 2004
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BB, excellent post and so true
sounds like we were both on the same train of thought today!
It's the "club" that's going to be the downfall and the petty childish arguments, "rows" as you say, which I haven't heard that expression used before, so thanks for the new word!
posted by
PastorB
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December 21, 2004
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I jumped right in when I got here...
not into the fighting, but into the commenting and getting to know Y'all...glad to hear that you were paying attention...doesn't seem like anyone else was...but who knows...
posted by
jimmy68
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December 21, 2004
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BB,
Kay-Ren's post does a great service to this community. I remember that she welcomed me here. I don't do it much these days, but I used to go over and say hi to the new folks. I've been really busy of late, can't tell when I last did that. It happens to all of us - we have to create our place in any community. The good thing is, that even when hot arguments are going on, it is clear that there are still sane people around here.
posted by
word.smith
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December 21, 2004
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Very true Littlems. There is action and action
posted by
beachbelle
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December 21, 2004
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Dave and Beachie
I still find it hard to believe that 'slagit' has so many people on the edge around here. I always find when I have a few days break - I miss all the action (for that I'm thankful.)
posted by
littlemspickles
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December 21, 2004
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beachie,
I like your analogy. I think it is inevitable that people will form cliques - it's in our nature. However, I don't think it is that hard for people to be open to new members and new and different opinions - after all, isn't that why most came to blogit in the first place. That sense of community can still co-exist with the cliques, it just depends on which side an individual chooses to participate. If you choose to be in a clique, you overlook the sense of community in a broader sense and look for it with just a few - which then as you describe, is more like a club than a community.
posted by
littlemspickles
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December 21, 2004
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Beachbelle, very informative post.
Speaking as a newbie, you're right on to a major factor.
posted by
ARGUS
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December 21, 2004
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Dave Cryer
Slagit or Slogit per'aps? I really think this is a factor
posted by
beachbelle
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December 21, 2004
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Archiew
I agree with those priorities although on deadline days it is a tussle between the editor and spouse
posted by
beachbelle
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December 21, 2004
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Beachie, don't know why, but the same thought crossed my mind about an hour ago, so I went via Kay-ren to drop in on one of the newbies, read and comment. It must, indeed, be quite a shock to arrive at Slagit when the mud is flying.
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
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December 21, 2004
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Good Observation
and probably true for most. I am generally gregarious, but when it comes to writing, I'm a loner. I write what I see, feel or think, and, if someone enjoys it, great, if not, then "oh well," I enjoyed it and that's what counts. The trick to professional writing, in my opinion, is finding editors who like the way your express yourself on topics that are important to them. You'll never make everyone happy. Heck, you'll never make most people happy. Just be content to make three people happy in your life, in this order: yourself, your spouse and the person who signs your paycheck.
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archiew
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December 21, 2004
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