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I can relate to your objection to reincarnation. Long ago, when I began to consider it as a possible reality, I swore to myself that if I died and found my spirit still alive, I would not wish to return to the physical plane as an insane helpless baby, with no memory, amongst other pitiful creatures who have also all lost their memory and knowledge of who they really are. This seemed like madness to me.

But there are several scenarios that could explain such madness. It could be the ultimate cosmic oppression, or it could be the ultimate expression of cosmic free will. You really should read Dr. Newton's book(s), for he is the best of the lot I have read by practitioners of hypnotic regression. He puts an entire spirit-world together for us, with reasons for everything, and it is wondrous indeed.

posted by GoldenMean on November 25, 2004 at 11:01 PM | link to this | reply

Food4thought is alleging circular argument or begging the question, one of my favorite argumentative fallacies. It is what happens when one presumes to prove something that by definition cannot be proven, otherwise known as faith. I believe in God, but I do not try to prove this belief true. Perhaps there is a way to do so, but then God would have to fit the model of scientific experimentation. But if divinity transcends the natural, how could this be done? I don't know about the reincarnation theory. Maybe I will explore it some time. I hope it is not true, because when I die I do not want to have to start all over again as a child and have to obey the rules of perhaps abusive parents. This life has been a blessing despite its troubles; I'd hate to anticipate the odds of another life.

posted by Dyl_Pickle on November 24, 2004 at 10:42 AM | link to this | reply

good post...

I enjoyed learning from it...i agree.

posted by SincerityAnna on November 18, 2004 at 1:38 PM | link to this | reply

I may be more of a believer than you think......

Actually, the hypnotic regression presented in this book and others like it, is the most persuasive "evidence" I have seen for a realistic and believable "afterlife" or spiritual background for all existence. Dr. Newton himself was an atheist and did not believe it at first, but played along with it because it had such beneficial effects on his patients. When he accumulated thousands of cases, and began to put the stories together, he became a believer. I am not yet a believer, but I would like for this spirit world to be reality, and I would like for reincarnation to be reality.

It just goes too far in the other direction from traditional Chrisianity. Christianity preaches "one life, one eternal reward/punishment." But with the chaos going on in this one life on Earth, there is no way Justice can truly be served with such a system. Justice is much better served with a system of reincarnation and incremental reward/punishment. But in Dr. Newton's scenario, there seems to be no punishment, not even any proper guidance. No consequences for evil behavior. I am disappointed, but I have an open mind about how such a system could work.

posted by GoldenMean on November 15, 2004 at 9:53 PM | link to this | reply

Methinks me smells a catch, Arrrggg matey...

It could be the catch 22 of channeling and reconstructed memory.  The contention is, these are real, and if you don't believe in them, it doesn't matter because, obviously, you don't believe in them.  Since you don't believe, you can't  be an objective observer.  Sounds a little bit like faith to me. 

posted by food4thought on November 14, 2004 at 10:24 PM | link to this | reply

Perhaps it's a societal construct...

if that's the correct terminology?

posted by Oceandancer on November 13, 2004 at 4:04 AM | link to this | reply