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Freerain...
thanks for the history lesson. Now back to the truth. Every thing that was listed by Freerain is in the past; proving my point exactly. You can not list any freedoms that I have that you don't have. NONE! The problem is that some of you want to attack the far right Christians by taking away from them and adding to the homosexuals. Freerain and Westwend just spoke of protecting the rights we have. Is taking from one and giving to another the way you would like freedoms to be available to everyone? That is no different than the accusations you are making. Freerain just listed rights that were given or added. When the right to vote was allowed to women did we then take it from men? No.
Your next comment will be then give homosexuals the right to marry. If that is done it will please you, no doubt, but are you willing to have the ten commandments and prayer allowed in schools? Gee, I bet I know the answer to that one.
posted by
RedStatesMan
on October 27, 2004 at 8:34 PM
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the list for Steelerman, that buffbunny
Where to start: The right to vote maybe? It was given to black MEN but not to women--why? The church thought it was heresy and men were misled to believe women were of no use in government, but merely for the marriage bed and domestic childrearing (along with the occasional professional woman many christian men entertained) How about the right to own property? Women were not alowed to own property, have a business or a banking relationship--this would diminish her dependency on her husband or other men in society, gosh, how awful. How about the right to work? Socially, it was unacceptable for women to work away from the home--to be seen in public and to have dealings with men on such matters was imbarrassing and men were made to be ashamed of their wives for seeking employment. How about education--women were excluded from higher education on the grounds that it was frivolous for women to seek higher knowledge--it would interfer with their natural purpose of childrearing and devotion to her husband--also, what would a man do with an "educated" lady anyway, conversations about politics and religion were not for the 'WEAKER SEX" so a girl was made to be afraid of being remotely intelligent. How about in the church? Women were refused a voice in the early church and those who spoke out about abuses were heretics--spousal abuse especially was swept under the rug or even deemed appropriate punishment for such outspokenness. These are the way of the fundalmentalist--to return to the good old days of oppression of anything non-patriarchial. There are other 'FREEDOMS' we've won over the last centruy, not by legislation alone but by social change and understanding that the old ways were intolerant and opressive. We have every right to fight for the liberties we've gained and refuse to turn back to the dark ages of ignorance, fear and opression.
Freerain
posted by
freerain
on October 27, 2004 at 3:22 PM
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steeler
that's the point
we all have freedoms now.
we have to protect them
we cannot go down the scary road of favoring one group above another.
this will lead to the abridgement of freedoms, i am sure.
posted by
Xeno-x
on October 27, 2004 at 1:45 PM
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What...
freedoms do I have that you don't. PLEASE LIST THEM. GO AHEAD!
posted by
RedStatesMan
on October 27, 2004 at 1:01 PM
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Very good blog
Religion is why I'm no longer a Republican.
posted by
Montezuma
on October 27, 2004 at 12:31 PM
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They are against America
Most Christian Fundamentalist really only care about their own freedoms. They will gladly take away freedoms from everyone else and yell as loud as possible that they are being discriminated against and such if anyone disagrees with them. They want us ot live in a theocracy and have no true freedoms.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 27, 2004 at 7:28 AM
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They want to live life their own way, but the gays don't matter.
posted by
roofpig
on October 27, 2004 at 6:05 AM
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