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Good post, Westwind
Steelerman, you buffbunny, The right
to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness have been abridged for homosexuals, to this very day. Still in many states there are "sodomy" laws that make sexual contact other than male/female vaginal intercourse ILLEGAL. Only in the last half of this century have the intelligence of society began to recognize the vast hypocricy of these laws, ONLY WHEN THEY WERE BEING APPLIED TO HETEROSEXUAL COUPLES--OUCH! So, now we have consentual sex determinations in the legal system, so that the privacy, very essential in American culture, can be defended. The very name of laws against sexual intercourse other than heterosexual vaginal intercourse being called "Sodomy" laws reflects the bigoted origin and misinformation spread by the Christian community. Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for sexual deviance, but because they followed their own will and "kept not the commandments" which they must have decided were too restrictive on their individual liberty and the development of ideas, knowledge and acceptance of others not like themselves, oh my, tolerance and diversity!
So, yes, life and liberty have been and are continued to be denied to homosexuals within our society. They have been imprisoned and dragged behind trucks, they have lost jobs and been denied housing, they have been and still are, forced to live in fear of others abuse, chastisment and excommunication from society should their natural affection be discovered. A marriage amendment will not stop homosexual love or their desire to establish long-term relationships. It will only imbed within our Liberal Constitution a Conservative, Religious Bias equating to and promoting the singular view of the fundalmental Christian who says that God is against homosexuality--just as those who said God was in favor of slavery, infeority of dark skinned people, and that women could not be capable of intelligent thought or governing in the society of man.
Peace,
Freerain
posted by
freerain
on October 13, 2004 at 8:51 PM
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More Absurd And Obviously Limited Thoughts From Steelerman
Steelerman wrote:
"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness as it deals with this issue:
1. Life: Homosexuals are definitely entitled to life past, present and future. Are you saying that unless they are permitted to marry then they do not have life? Are single people in our country dropping dead?"
Completely irrelevent and absurd.
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Steelerman wrote:
"2. Liberty: Homosexuals enjoy the same liberty as everyone else past, present and future. Are you saying that unless they are permitted to marry then they do not have liberty? Single citizens of our nation do not have liberty?"
Homosexuals do not enjoy the same liberty that everyone else enjoys. To wit, single people do have the liberty to marry if they so desire. A ban on same-gender marriages will unarguably deny some adults the liberty to marry another consenting adult based on nothing more than their gender. We do not deny single people that liberty to marry if their gender meets public approval.
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Steelerman wrote:
"3. Pursuit of Happiness: Homosexuals enjoy the pursuit of happiness as we all do past, present and future. Are you saying that unless they are permitted to marry then they denied happiness? All single people are unhappy?"
Again, single people do have the freedom to pursue their happiness by marrying the one that they love; if they so desire. A ban on same-gender marriages marginalizes free people by denying them the happiness of marrying the individual they love. What's more, this government-sanctioned curtailment of individual happiness arises merely because the subject's desire to marry doesn't meet the threshold of public approval. This threshold of public approval, meanwhile, rests on nothing more than religious superstition and the citizen's gender. From another angle, such disapproval of same-sex marriages equates to denying citizens their right to marry based on little more than such things as the color of their skin or their income level.
Bigotry at it's very rankest.
Finally, the US Constitution guarantees all US citizens the right to equal treatment under the law. The marriage of homosexuals will not destroy the institute of matrimony but it will guarantee that all couples in love (regardless of gender) receive that equal treatment under the law. In fact, endorsing a ban on same-gender marriages clearly contradicts the thoroughly American prinicples of liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and equal treatment under the law. Anyone who opposes such principles would appear un-American.
I don't know why zealots so despise American freedom. I can only attest it to ignorance, limited thinking, and/or paranoia.
Respectfully,
Dennison Mann
posted by
Dennison..Mann
on October 12, 2004 at 4:14 AM
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Let's Examine...
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness as it deals with this issue:
1. Life: Homosexuals are definitely entitled to life past, present and future. Are you saying that unless they are permitted to marry then they do not have life? Are single people in our country dropping dead?
2. Liberty: Homosexuals enjoy the same liberty as everyone else past, present and future. Are you saying that unless they are permitted to marry then they do not have liberty? Single citizens of our nation do not have liberty?
3. Pursuit of Happiness: Homosexuals enjoy the pursuit of happiness as we all do past, present and future. Are you saying that unless they are permitted to marry then they denied happiness? All single people are unhappy?
posted by
RedStatesMan
on October 11, 2004 at 9:54 PM
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west
I'm sure that there are some bloggers who can explain to you why I have blocked you, the things you've said about me in this post are some indication.
posted by
PastorB
on October 11, 2004 at 5:39 PM
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