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Hell is just a payback.
So is Heaven.

posted by TARZANA on September 17, 2004 at 12:35 PM | link to this | reply

Of course
he/she won't be at home there.

posted by Friar__Tuck on September 16, 2004 at 10:12 PM | link to this | reply

I think that an evil person...
would be more unhappy (uncomfortable?) in heaven surrounded by saints than in Hell surrounded by demons.

posted by nevertheless on September 16, 2004 at 12:46 PM | link to this | reply

SunFever...
here is my response to your discussion.

posted by Friar__Tuck on September 15, 2004 at 10:40 PM | link to this | reply

choosing to do wrong
and being wrong are two different things.  One chooses to do what is right, even if "the right thing" is really wrong.  E.g. "Mommy, I am pregnant, but I am not yet ready to be a mother.  I'm going to the abortion clinic to have this embryo removed.  I choose to exercise my right to my own body.  I don't need Patrick's seed destroying my sexy waistline.  What would my fans say!" etc...

posted by Friar__Tuck on September 15, 2004 at 10:17 PM | link to this | reply

freedom is not about choice

there is no freedom in being "wrong"...for every "wrong" you "choose" for yourself (ie be a part of your belief system) you are enslaving yourself to the "wrong" the only freedom that exists is in "truth"...hence jesus said 'the truth will set you free'

 

posted by sunfever on September 15, 2004 at 9:50 AM | link to this | reply

But we can still choose...

between right and wrong, otherwise, how can be free?

posted by Friar__Tuck on September 15, 2004 at 6:27 AM | link to this | reply

the problem is...

that there is a contextual conflict when trying to discover why hell or heaven, for that matter, has been created. inevitably it will be like the three blind men touching the elephant (the guy at the trunk calls it a tree, the one in the center calls it a wall and the one at the tail calls it a rope)...

existentially we are within a 'framework' where pieces like 'heaven' 'hell' 'god' 'evil' etc are absolute points of reference with no possibility of fudging those to suit whatever convenient dramatics we choose to swallow (whys n wherefores contemplation on heaven and hell's creation is beyond the scope of the perceptive flux that current existential awareness offers to most of us in the human race - ok it might seem like am upping the ante and shoving such understanding into a kind of 'holy grail' but then...thats how the cookie crumbles...flashback: garden of eden - eat dust baby east dust)

there are certain matters beyond individual choice - e.g. we are born as human beings, no amount of grandstanding will change that...

the "lie" that we have been taught is that - "morality" is a matter of individual choice - it is not...(well morality is not the best word but a close approximation, but within the context it conveys the meaning for that collection of value premises that are generally accepted as "good" and not "evil", a better word would be "arete" or "virtue")

arete exists...an absolute point of reference...it is just that we have to "grow" our perception to understand wht it really is all about.

to even begin a semi serious investigation as to why heaven and hell exist...we should progress some way along the arete path...(most of as are practically areteless)

 

posted by sunfever on September 15, 2004 at 5:55 AM | link to this | reply

This Has...
...always struck me as the model for a perfect police state!

D

posted by DamonLeigh on September 15, 2004 at 3:41 AM | link to this | reply