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I believe he was killed by our own government.
posted by
Tamara99
on May 17, 2004 at 3:54 AM
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Posted by lonebutte on May 12, 2004 at 9:33 AM (link)
I have a question to put force to really scary stuff Supposing Americans could for the life of them make a distinction between Al-Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, militant fundamentalist Islam. How would it change anything by them knowing? We created a monster we can’t stop and therefore we will now have to suffer its consequences. I am just going to sit back and watch the dead bury the dead because that is all one can do now. We can read, write all the literature under the sun and it will not make an ounce of difference. If you think for one minute it will then you are all deluding yourselves. Life choices always come with a price and the president knew that. Not wanting to blame anyone because it is hard to know the outcome of anything and it is always great to talk in hindsight. America wanted revenge for SEP 11 and that is exactly what they are getting now. They did not listen to the rest of the world when it was trying to warn the Americans of the consequences and what the cost would be to America in the long term did they? Now we just have to put up with it. However, I would like to say that if we would stop focusing on the negative aspects of things that we may see some good come out of it all eventually. There is no point blaming anyone because that won’t get us anywhere. Just have a look around at how this war accommodates the media and many others are benefiting from it all I am sure. But I say again NOT without a price. We may think it is unfair because many are dying in the process of it all and the way I see it our opinion is not even worth a pinch of shit. So I ask why even bother talking about it. I don’t think any one knows what is really going on just between you and me. They swap and change their stories every day. In 20 years time the next generation will do the same again since history repeats itself same shit different people. I can tell you now that it is going to get a hell of a lot worth before it will get better.
Cheers VIVA
posted by
VIVA_LA_KATZE
on May 17, 2004 at 3:28 AM
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You Make a Good...
...point about the power of images.
There are indeed innocents being killed daily - children in Palestine, women in Detroit,, old folk in Flallujah - but the world doesn't respond as it did to the beheading becasue, if they get reported at all, there's only text, and that doesn't count for much in the media now.
Nick Berg had a horrible end, and one I wouldn't wish on anyone. But horrible ends are happening every day - more so now that our war-mongering governments have stepped up the heat - and excessive hand-wringing over one just belittles those that are anonymous and hidden from the eyes of the world.
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posted by
DamonLeigh
on May 17, 2004 at 2:20 AM
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alt, I have forgotten who said that digital information would reshape the
world and it is doing so now. There are news organizations and social orgs. that are passing out cameras to people all over the world, to record and document their world, their lives, their problems, conflicts and horrors. I personally think that this will make us all more honest as the images spread the truer word about our real world. All Power to the Pixels.
posted by
benzinha
on May 16, 2004 at 12:57 AM
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Without conflict, many would be grocers, herdsmen or just unemployed.
And that is on both sides of the Atlantic (adjust for culture).
As for the "jailers", now no one can figure out who was in charge. I am not convinced.
posted by
majroj
on May 12, 2004 at 10:15 PM
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looks, in photos anyway, like a lose-lose situation.
posted by
benzinha
on May 12, 2004 at 7:31 PM
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really scary stuff
It's really scary how so many Americans can't for the life of them make a distinction between Al-Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, 9/11, militant fundamentalist Islam, and every day peaceful Islam. And the Bushies haven't helped in the matter (surprise, surprise), because they've been cleverly conflating all those elements to make it seem like they're all related so they can keep up the pretense of bringing democracy and freedom to Iraq. Part of the problem, of course, is the often abysmal education of Americans: many of them have been taught little, if any history, and can't even find Iraq or Afghanistan or even the United States on a globe. I see a lot of the problem as just plain ignorance. Not stupidity, but ignorance. And we're the most powerful nation on earth?
posted by
lonebutte
on May 12, 2004 at 9:33 AM
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